Vladislav Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Dutch book tells it was originally DM800 and worked in some steel factory in Germany. Next they put Cruiseliner cab and 600hp Cummins on it.On the last photo there is Russian Volga car, probably the police one in the German Democratic Republic (East Germany or GDR). 1 Quote Никогда не бывает слишком много грузовиков! leversole 11.2012 Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30466-when-mack-roamed-europe-the-middle-east-africa-and-western-asia/page/3/#findComment-179818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ap40rocktruck Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Dutch book tells it was originally DM800 and worked in some steel factory in Germany. Next they put Cruiseliner cab and 600hp Cummins on it.On the last photo there is Russian Volga car, probably the police one in the German Democratic Republic (East Germany or GDR).Vlad, Great bit of info! What is the title of the Dutch book????Rick Quote Richard MarkOwner / Master Model Maker Industrial Model DesignAp40rocktruck Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30466-when-mack-roamed-europe-the-middle-east-africa-and-western-asia/page/3/#findComment-179863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel Posted April 23, 2013 Author Share Posted April 23, 2013 The chassis is supposed to be a DM-800SX. It belonged to a heavy hauling firm in Trostberg, Germay (Upper Bavaria) named Uwe Kruck GmbH (perhaps formerly known as Krause). The truck was assembled in 1977. Kruck (or Krause) ordered a Cruise-Liner cab from a German Mack dealer called Bonnes. (I show the Mack distributor for West Germany during the eighties was Bayerisch Transport Union in Munich) A 27-liter 600hp Cummins V-12 was retrofitted in conjunction with the cab installation. From 1980, there is mention of it being operated by a large industrial plant near Hamburg (northern Germany) on-site for its own internal use. The truck is supposed to still exist with a company called Nievelstein in Landgraaf, The Netherlands. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30466-when-mack-roamed-europe-the-middle-east-africa-and-western-asia/page/3/#findComment-179904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GearheadGrrrl Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 The MR with the sleeper looks better than the standard non sleeper, and using some parts from the fire truck version of the MC, wouldn't have been too hard to build. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30466-when-mack-roamed-europe-the-middle-east-africa-and-western-asia/page/3/#findComment-179919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel Posted April 23, 2013 Author Share Posted April 23, 2013 The MR with the sleeper looks better than the standard non sleeper, and using some parts from the fire truck version of the MC, wouldn't have been too hard to build.I agree. What a brilliant way for Mack Trucks to target the European brand low cab forward sleepers like the Scania "P" and Volvo "FL" with a very price competitive product.At least in the UK, the MC was called the "Cruise-Hauler".. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30466-when-mack-roamed-europe-the-middle-east-africa-and-western-asia/page/3/#findComment-179929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel Posted April 23, 2013 Author Share Posted April 23, 2013 "Down Under", the MCR was offered in many more variations.. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30466-when-mack-roamed-europe-the-middle-east-africa-and-western-asia/page/3/#findComment-179932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel Posted April 23, 2013 Author Share Posted April 23, 2013 Ahead of the MC/MR, Mack Australia uniquely offered the MIR model, which used the former Brockway N527 "Huskiteer" cab. How many Americans ever saw an 8x4 Mack MBR, the ideal weight distribution design for long road life?Mack MIR Series Cab (CAR59).pdf 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30466-when-mack-roamed-europe-the-middle-east-africa-and-western-asia/page/3/#findComment-179933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel Posted April 23, 2013 Author Share Posted April 23, 2013 Germany's massive Linde AG used to get the heavy moves done the "pedigreed" Mack way.. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30466-when-mack-roamed-europe-the-middle-east-africa-and-western-asia/page/3/#findComment-179954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFCDrum Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Great pics. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30466-when-mack-roamed-europe-the-middle-east-africa-and-western-asia/page/3/#findComment-179957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladislav Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Great pics, thanks again.I have never seen Macks in Germany excepting in Speyer museum.Have driven a couple of thousands km a year overthere. Quote Никогда не бывает слишком много грузовиков! leversole 11.2012 Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30466-when-mack-roamed-europe-the-middle-east-africa-and-western-asia/page/3/#findComment-179996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladislav Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Vlad, Great bit of info! What is the title of the Dutch book????RickRick, the book title is "De historie van Mack trucks in Nederland".Interesting and with good pictures. And you might enjoy the fact they have a rich the history indeed.It has been written in Dutch though. I understand it in general when reading because I speak German a bit.Those languages are close to each other. Quote Никогда не бывает слишком много грузовиков! leversole 11.2012 Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30466-when-mack-roamed-europe-the-middle-east-africa-and-western-asia/page/3/#findComment-179998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kscarbel Posted April 24, 2013 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 24, 2013 The boys at San Jose prefer MacksBased in Madrid and San Sebastian, Spain, San Jose (Transportes Internacionales San José S.A.) was one of many Mack fleets operating throughout Europe (they had a few Dodge C38T 4x2 tractors, but that’s another story for U.S. readers).In fact, San Jose liked their Macks so much that the bulldog became an unofficial company logo.Established in 1949, San Jose Int’l Transport merged in 2002 with Lopez Transport S.A. to become San Jose Lopez Group (El Grupo San José López), a.k.a."SJL".The fleet began with B-models and shifted to extended cab R- and U-models for regional hauling, and Mack Interstaters (2nd generation F-models) for long-distance hauling.The Mack distributor in Spain was the Madrid-based Distribuidores Mack, S.A. (dealer code 93F)With Volvo Group wanting the Volvo brand assigned to Western Europe, they have chosen not to set the Mack brand up with a new COE for fear of taking sales away from the group’s mainstay Volvo brand.With the disappearance of Mack in Europe, San Jose has been buying Ivecos, Benz, Renaults, DAFs and most recently MANs – but no Volvos. 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30466-when-mack-roamed-europe-the-middle-east-africa-and-western-asia/page/3/#findComment-180054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
umodelnut Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 I like the U models. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30466-when-mack-roamed-europe-the-middle-east-africa-and-western-asia/page/3/#findComment-180055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel Posted April 24, 2013 Author Share Posted April 24, 2013 I like the U models.The Merriam-Webster dictionary defines the "U-model" as "a truck brilliant and revolutionary in design; unparalleled in regional hauling efficiency". 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30466-when-mack-roamed-europe-the-middle-east-africa-and-western-asia/page/3/#findComment-180058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
umodelnut Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 The Merriam-Webster dictionary defines the "U-model" as "a truck brilliant and revolutionary in design; unparalleled in regional hauling efficiency".That is AWESOME. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30466-when-mack-roamed-europe-the-middle-east-africa-and-western-asia/page/3/#findComment-180060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel Posted April 24, 2013 Author Share Posted April 24, 2013 Have Mack F-700, will travel......UK, Asia, Africa and all points in between. This UK-based operator has you covered.. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30466-when-mack-roamed-europe-the-middle-east-africa-and-western-asia/page/3/#findComment-180062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel Posted April 24, 2013 Author Share Posted April 24, 2013 How could I forget San Jose's sharp looking FMs.. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30466-when-mack-roamed-europe-the-middle-east-africa-and-western-asia/page/3/#findComment-180063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackdaddy Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 You need to consider putting together a talk at one of the ATHS National conventions about the history of Mack outside the US. Good stuff! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30466-when-mack-roamed-europe-the-middle-east-africa-and-western-asia/page/3/#findComment-180141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFCDrum Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 The R Model is cool with his high rise intake and his TIR plate. RFC Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30466-when-mack-roamed-europe-the-middle-east-africa-and-western-asia/page/3/#findComment-180173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ap40rocktruck Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Rick, the book title is "De historie van Mack trucks in Nederland".Interesting and with good pictures. And you might enjoy the fact they have a rich the history indeed.It has been written in Dutch though. I understand it in general when reading because I speak German a bit.Those languages are close to each other.Thanks Vlad, I will add this one to my list of must haves!Rick 1 Quote Richard MarkOwner / Master Model Maker Industrial Model DesignAp40rocktruck Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30466-when-mack-roamed-europe-the-middle-east-africa-and-western-asia/page/3/#findComment-180186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kscarbel Posted June 18, 2013 Author Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2013 I found it interesting that Mammoet, the epitome of global heavy haulers, has a 1992 RD-822SX on their Prime Mover list. It appears this unit has been based at Mammoet's Middle East division in Dubai (United Arab Emirates). Note the SR70/80 planetary hub reduction drive axles.http://www.mammoet.com/Documents/PDF/Mammoet%20Equipment/Transport/Prime%20Movers.pdfhttp://www.mammoet.com/en/AsiaPacific/We've mentioned Mammoet before, with their Dutch custom-made Detroit Diesel V-12-powered DM prime movers. 4 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30466-when-mack-roamed-europe-the-middle-east-africa-and-western-asia/page/3/#findComment-189385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lmackattack Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Proof that there was a larger R model cab than the 73' and on +3 cab... How do I get one! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30466-when-mack-roamed-europe-the-middle-east-africa-and-western-asia/page/3/#findComment-189405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJW Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Hello there,Thought I would add a couple of pics of Macks I seen during my time travelling around Central Asia.These Iranian ones were seen in a Truck park in Turkmenistan..........can't tell you the models.....I'm clueless on that 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30466-when-mack-roamed-europe-the-middle-east-africa-and-western-asia/page/3/#findComment-190710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel Posted June 25, 2013 Author Share Posted June 25, 2013 Hello there,Thought I would add a couple of pics of Macks I seen during my time travelling around Central Asia.These Iranian ones were seen in a Truck park in Turkmenistan..........can't tell you the models.....I'm clueless on thatThose left and right fuel tanks look to be around 600 liters each (about 160 gallons). That would give these Iran Kaveh Mack R-models quite a range.. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30466-when-mack-roamed-europe-the-middle-east-africa-and-western-asia/page/3/#findComment-190792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raji Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Hi this is my first post in this forum, i'm a big fan of the old U.S vehicles , Mack is one of my best favorite trucks make and it is very rare in my country Algeria, yesterday my friend Akram sent me pictures of 3 destroyed Mack R-Series he found in Ouled Derradj junkyard, east Algeria, so i was happy and sad in the same time because i was waiting to see this trucks again here (i didn't see them from the '90), but at least in good condition, so unfortunately it wasn't, mr.Akram tried to get more info's like what company did use them or what are the owners but he couldn't make it, may be another time he will return and try to get more info's, this is their pictures:Akram and the MackAnd it would be very nice if someone have photos about Mack trucks in Algeria, so please share them in this topic and if they are from another U.S trucks/cars makes sent me in personal message, thanks. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30466-when-mack-roamed-europe-the-middle-east-africa-and-western-asia/page/3/#findComment-265673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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