Popular Post fifth wheel Posted April 17, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2013 I came across this truck, it is unique and interesting. It belonged to the College of the Redwoods, Eureka CA. , and was used in their driver training course. From what I can find the College was founded in 1964 and had a variety of courses and one was truck driver training.196? Kenworth W 923, DD 871Tw/ jake, 5 & 4 transmissions, Aluminum frame and air ride.A second brake for the instructor.Bus seats fitted in the bunk for the students.The way it was back...All the gauges.Old school low air.Anyone know of someone that went to this college and took truck driver training?FW 6 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30844-driver-training-old-school/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
2stacksuperdog Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I see some nicer stuff in the background Quote Matt Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30844-driver-training-old-school/#findComment-178475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
umodelnut Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 That's really cool!!!! Thanks for posting. I also see alot of old Macks in the back. Was there any U models? I see DM's. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30844-driver-training-old-school/#findComment-178477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 ya,,,thats when men were men,,,now thier all power steering and automatic....bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30844-driver-training-old-school/#findComment-178590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post vision386 Posted April 17, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2013 Man thats something! thanks for posting! i'd sure like to see them try and teach a 5 and a 4 nowadays!...........................................Mark 3 Quote Mack Truck literate. Computer illiterate. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30844-driver-training-old-school/#findComment-178629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatcity Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Man thats something! thanks for posting! i'd sure like to see them try and teach a 5 and a 4 nowadays!...........................................Mark"Where's the drive button? I don't see the R to back up" 1 Quote Success is only a stones throw away.................................................................for a Palestinian Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30844-driver-training-old-school/#findComment-178632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vision386 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 "Where's the drive button? I don't see the R to back up"LMAO! thats what i was thinking,what no "M-Drive"? whats that other pedal for? Quote Mack Truck literate. Computer illiterate. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30844-driver-training-old-school/#findComment-178636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 No automatic, a/c, p.w. or 60 speaker stereo...that ain't no real truck.Hatcity....Don't joke! I took my Dodge pick up in for the state inspection and the "tech" come s into the office andd asks me to pull it inside for him. See it has New Process 435 trans in it and he couldn't drive it. Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30844-driver-training-old-school/#findComment-178681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2stacksuperdog Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Hatcity....Don't joke! I took my Dodge pick up in for the state inspection and the "tech" come s into the office andd asks me to pull it inside for him. See it has New Process 435 trans in it and he couldn't drive it. We had to bring our steel nose DM for a state inspection and the guy told my dad to open the hood and he didn't understand why he couldn't just flip open the hood and fenders. he didn't like the butterfly hood i guess Quote Matt Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30844-driver-training-old-school/#findComment-178685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
slpwlker Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 some people you just got to shake your head at and wonder how did they ever make it thru life as far as they did 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30844-driver-training-old-school/#findComment-178696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul roncetti Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 What a great idea, why do schools discontinue courses like this and the trades? It's enough to make you puke. 1 Quote RONCETTI Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30844-driver-training-old-school/#findComment-178699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatcity Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 We had to bring our steel nose DM for a state inspection and the guy told my dad to open the hood and he didn't understand why he couldn't just flip open the hood and fenders. he didn't like the butterfly hood i guessSince he couldn't just walk up and look at the motor, how did he do it? Have to get a step stool/ladder? Quote Success is only a stones throw away.................................................................for a Palestinian Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30844-driver-training-old-school/#findComment-178702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Hey Hatcity........when I saw this thread I thought you were getting up students for a driving school. LOL I then became interested in knowing what was next enstore for some of us greenhorn wannabes. LOLmike Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30844-driver-training-old-school/#findComment-178717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hatcity Posted April 18, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted April 18, 2013 First thing-you will learn how to do a pm. oil changes, grease the chassis, learn the different parts of a truck and why/how they all work together. Yep, you're getting dirty so don't be wearing flip flops and a pretty boy shirt 4 Quote Success is only a stones throw away.................................................................for a Palestinian Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30844-driver-training-old-school/#findComment-178722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
39 Baby Mack Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 LMAO! thats what i was thinking,what no "M-Drive"? whats that other pedal for?That's just one of those "ergonomic" places to rest your foot!I wonder how many times they had to replace the treadle valve on the passenger side???Ron 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30844-driver-training-old-school/#findComment-178728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 First thing-you will learn how to do a pm. oil changes, grease the chassis, learn the different parts of a truck and why/how they all work together. Yep, you're getting dirty so don't be wearing flip flops and a pretty boy shirtPretty Boy shirts and flip flops......huh. I cut my teeth on those important have to items and a cigar.mike Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30844-driver-training-old-school/#findComment-178732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike69mackman Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Just watched a you tube video on shifting one of those trannies, seems confusing, would like to learn though. Seems like it would be fun once you got on to it. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30844-driver-training-old-school/#findComment-178866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vision386 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 First thing-you will learn how to do a pm. oil changes, grease the chassis, learn the different parts of a truck and why/how they all work together. Yep, you're getting dirty so don't be wearing flip flops and a pretty boy shirtA good many greenhorns i see today would benefit from just such a program!.......................................Mark Quote Mack Truck literate. Computer illiterate. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30844-driver-training-old-school/#findComment-178911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vision386 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Just watched a you tube video on shifting one of those trannies, seems confusing, would like to learn though. Seems like it would be fun once you got on to it.Mike,a 5 and a 4 are pretty easy once you get the hang of it,getting to be a lost art. Only thing thats confusing (to me anyway) is after driving a Mack trans. everything is backwards, with a 5X4 the main is close,and the aux. is far away,takes some getting used to!.................................Mark Quote Mack Truck literate. Computer illiterate. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30844-driver-training-old-school/#findComment-178914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
220cummins Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 "Where's the high/low button on the stick like it said in the brochures?" Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30844-driver-training-old-school/#findComment-178919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakebrake86 Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 Mark, I've always wondered... do you shift all the way through the aux for every one gear in the main, or is it the other way around? 1 Quote Jake Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30844-driver-training-old-school/#findComment-179098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatcity Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 Mark, I've always wondered... do you shift all the way through the aux for every one gear in the main, or is it the other way around?With a MACK quad box, you went from 4 direct to 5 direct. The low split/high split were basically the same ratioAnd if I remeber correctly, using the aux in 5 was more of a downshiftOn other 5x4, you could use all of them, but by the time you were in 4 direct, you were able to just hit 5.A quick downshift could be used in 5, but i would just use 5 to 4 and then downshift the aux. Quote Success is only a stones throw away.................................................................for a Palestinian Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30844-driver-training-old-school/#findComment-179125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freightrain Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 With Mack boxes, you had to determine if it was a SINGLE overdrive or DOUBLE overdrive. That would determine if you had skip 5th Direct. It's kinda confusing, but you have to look at the ratio's to see the issue with reduntant ratio's and the reason you skipped gears.Have to look, I think Mack swaps the sticks around depending on which box. I think the Duplex has the compound on the far stick? The TRi and Quad are on the near stick. 1 Quote Larry 1959 B61 Liv'n Large...................... Charter member of the "MACK PACK" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30844-driver-training-old-school/#findComment-179131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
other dog Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 Mark, I've always wondered... do you shift all the way through the aux for every one gear in the main, or is it the other way around?Generally speaking, you shift the aux. for each gear in the main trans.- under, direct, over in the aux. for each gear in the main. However, there are differences in how this is done, mainly like freightrain said, if your main trans. is direct in 4th. gear or 5th. gear, some ratios are redundant, some gears are not used, etc. 1 Quote Producer of poorly photo-chopped pictures since 1999. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30844-driver-training-old-school/#findComment-179174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vision386 Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Generally speaking, you shift the aux. for each gear in the main trans.- under, direct, over in the aux. for each gear in the main. However, there are differences in how this is done, mainly like freightrain said, if your main trans. is direct in 4th. gear or 5th. gear, some ratios are redundant, some gears are not used, etc. Exactly Tom,you explained it better than i would,its not as complicated as it sounds though Jakebrake86.................................Mark Quote Mack Truck literate. Computer illiterate. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30844-driver-training-old-school/#findComment-179231 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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