cncFireman Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1952-MACK-Vintage-Heavy-Duty-Tow-Truck-w-Hall-Scott-Engine-Ex-LA-Fire-Department-/271195290705?pt=Commercial_Trucks&hash=item3f247fbc51#ht_500wt_1182Interesting engine, too bad it has fire damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umodelnut Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Cool little thing. Burned up pretty bad though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTFormula Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 It comes with a Wench Quote ~ JT Burkard ~ AKA Sweaty Mackwww.jtresto.com www.wickedreputation.netwww.jonathanthomasmotorcars.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxfymn Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 I know where there is an LS21 available for parts if anyone bites on this one.LA is well known in fire buff circles for their "HU" or Heavy Utility units. Generally they are very heavy duty wreckers that are used for extrications as well as towing of FD units. They have had several very unique rigs ove rthe years including a custom Crown Fire Coach rig equipped with a wrecker body.My guess is this is a shop built unit made out of one of the LS21 pumpers. Most likely a "one off" and certainly well worth restoring if you have the deep pockets to do it. Quote Money, sex, and fire; everybody thinks everyone else is getting more than they are! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vision386 Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 I know where there is an LS21 available for parts if anyone bites on this one.LA is well known in fire buff circles for their "HU" or Heavy Utility units. Generally they are very heavy duty wreckers that are used for extrications as well as towing of FD units. They have had several very unique rigs ove rthe years including a custom Crown Fire Coach rig equipped with a wrecker body.My guess is this is a shop built unit made out of one of the LS21 pumpers. Most likely a "one off" and certainly well worth restoring if you have the deep pockets to do it.Pretty ambitious project!...........................................Mark Quote Mack Truck literate. Computer illiterate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxfymn Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Pretty ambitious project!...........................................MarkNot for those who can just write a check. I'm sure Matt Pfahl would love to get his hands on this if someone would pay him to do it. Quote Money, sex, and fire; everybody thinks everyone else is getting more than they are! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatcity Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 It comes with a WenchG--G---GiddyupFishnet stockings-humina humina humina Quote Success is only a stones throw away.................................................................for a Palestinian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdog Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 I know where there is an LS21 available for parts if anyone bites on this one.LA is well known in fire buff circles for their "HU" or Heavy Utility units. Generally they are very heavy duty wreckers that are used for extrications as well as towing of FD units. They have had several very unique rigs ove rthe years including a custom Crown Fire Coach rig equipped with a wrecker body.My guess is this is a shop built unit made out of one of the LS21 pumpers. Most likely a "one off" and certainly well worth restoring if you have the deep pockets to do it.The 21LS parts truck you mention,does it happen to have a carburator? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxfymn Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 The 21LS parts truck you mention,does it happen to have a carburator?I don't know for sure, but I think it does. Are you looking for Hall-Scott parts?He has had the truck on E-Bay as a parts truck, so I'm pretty sure he doesn't want to part it out himself. Send me a PM and I'll send you his e-mail so you two can work it out. Quote Money, sex, and fire; everybody thinks everyone else is getting more than they are! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdog Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 If it's the one that was on Ebay,I already talked to him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gvam Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 fxfymn. Pardon the dumb question, but what is a LS21? I saw that LAFD wrecker on ebay and was going to try and check it out when I went out for a work meeting. Trip got cancelled. I would love to have that monster Hall-Scott. I guess if I could afford to restore the truck, feeding the 2mpg engine would not be a problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdog Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 The 21LS is your basic L model fire chassis but it is powered by the Hall-Scott engine,same way the B-21 fire trucks are also Hall-Scott powered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxfymn Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 As Superdog said they are the L series fire chassis, but they are pretty unique. According to Harvey Eckart's book out of the 1453 L series fire trucks that were delivered only 80 were the LS21 series. Most had the Hall-Scott motors, but they also used the Hercules HXE 935ci to power pumps ranging in size from 1250 gpm to 2000 gpm. Quote Money, sex, and fire; everybody thinks everyone else is getting more than they are! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gvam Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Thanks Guys! Soon after I sent the post, my brain re-engaged and I figured the LF was and L model firetruck.Was the Hercules 935 actually the Hall-Scott engine after Hercules purchased H-S? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifth wheel Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Thanks Guys! Soon after I sent the post, my brain re-engaged and I figured the LF was and L model firetruck.Was the Hercules 935 actually the Hall-Scott engine after Hercules purchased H-S?The Hercules HXE-935 is a different (valve in block), than the Hall Scott 935 (valve in head) engine.The Hall Scott engines, The 400 series, model 450 - 5 x 6 - 707 cd 470 - 5.5 x 6 - 855 cd 480 5.75 x 6- 935 cd 400 5.75 x 7-1090 cd 440 " " " low mount fan and water pump, different oil filtering , water proof ignition, military applications.When Hercules took over Hall Scott they were numbered , 470 = Model 855 480 = Model 935, 6156 400 = Model 1091, 6182, 1091 OSThe truck for sale has a HS 480 engine , and have been told it was built as a wrecker/recovery vehicle, and not a modified apparatus. I know someone that looked at it a few years ago. The truck was in a grass fire.FW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gvam Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Thanks Fifth Wheel. I just got a book about HS engines. Really neat stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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