vwjunkie Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Thinking about buying a '51 A40... I see Watts doesn't list any A model stuff. Is there any source for restoration pieces for one of these trucks? I has a 160 Cummins, which I have also had little luck in finding any info on.. Is there a Cummins dealer or shop that deals with parts for the older model engines such as that? Any info would be great.ThanksJason Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30972-a-model-parts-source/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowmobile02067 Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Good luck. I hate to say my experience is that these beauties are tough to find parts for. I believe that the cab is exactly the same as the E series, the nose is quite a mongrel. I do not think the power plants even interchange with other series.I have even toyed with the idea of losing the hood and fenders and making a Mack roadster for novelty (sorry purists) Mine has a blown EN377 and I want to drop a DT466 in it to modernize it. so I can use it to pull a trailer to shows. Good luck because all that said, I think they are one of the neater looking Macks out there. The first step would be Macungie if you are anywhere near it. Good luck! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30972-a-model-parts-source/#findComment-180429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog13407 Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 theres an A model nose and fenders on Craigslist right now in CT or Mass. they arent terribly hard to find parts for just a little harder than a B or R model. most any B model engine i believe would fit in an A model with a little work, i have even seen a 237 in one somewhere. the A models had the same basic overheard Valve block that some B models used so its not that hard to retorfit another engine in one, as far as i know a DT466 IH engine will not even fit in a B model without major modification. the water pump is too long to fit in a B model unless you move the engine back and modify the firewall. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30972-a-model-parts-source/#findComment-180432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vwjunkie Posted April 26, 2013 Author Share Posted April 26, 2013 The engine is supposed to run great, has good oil pressure, etc... The front sheet metal is also supposed to be pretty decent. I realize there is going to be stuff I gotta make, but parts trucks aren't exactly growing on trees around here either!Jason Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30972-a-model-parts-source/#findComment-180433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog13407 Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 just think if noone buys it and he scraps it, that will be one less parts truck also.... Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30972-a-model-parts-source/#findComment-180436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vwjunkie Posted April 26, 2013 Author Share Posted April 26, 2013 After talking to the guy I don't get the impression he would scrap it, he has a few Mack's including a W71 cabover.. It really is exactly what I'm looking for price wise and the kind of shape it's in. Runs/drives but needs cosmetic attention.. Was just hoping there would be a source for truck parts or older model cummins stuff. Local cummins dealer has no listings for anything that old.Jason Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30972-a-model-parts-source/#findComment-180446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowmobile02067 Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Hey thank you for the information also. Any ideas on what might fit in for a more modern diesel if I went that way? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30972-a-model-parts-source/#findComment-180468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vwjunkie Posted April 26, 2013 Author Share Posted April 26, 2013 If you wanted to take the easy route out I'm sure a 6bt cummins would fit. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30972-a-model-parts-source/#findComment-180504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
h67st Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 If you want to do some investigating on your Cummins, you could check out Red Smith. He's a BMT supporter.http://www.bigmacktrucks.com/index.php?/topic/29345-please-welcome-red-smith-vintage-cummins-engines-as-our-newest-bmt-advertiser/ Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30972-a-model-parts-source/#findComment-180506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 I recieved this list from Don Schumacher from the MACK Museum. There are a few A model suppliers there. Paulhttp://www.macktrucks.com/assets/mack/Corporate/MackMuseum/PARTSSUPPLIERSFOROLDTRUCKS.pdf Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30972-a-model-parts-source/#findComment-180507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1958 F.W.D. Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 There's an old-school Cummins shop that advertises in Double Clutch and Wheels of Time, can't remember the name though. Quote TWO STROKES ARE FOR GARDEN TOOLS Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30972-a-model-parts-source/#findComment-180512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vwjunkie Posted April 27, 2013 Author Share Posted April 27, 2013 Thanks for all the info guys... He has the build stuff and truck maint manual from the Mack museum, but nothing for the engine... It was repowered by Cummins in '60 or '61, it was a gas engine orginally.Jason Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30972-a-model-parts-source/#findComment-180596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cncFireman Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Might as well start with the basics and get it mechanically sound. If the cummins works use it Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30972-a-model-parts-source/#findComment-180627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog13407 Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 yup, A models are getting scarce and a tandem is even rarer. save her Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30972-a-model-parts-source/#findComment-180652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vwjunkie Posted April 27, 2013 Author Share Posted April 27, 2013 Ya I have no intention of changing engines... It fires right up and carries 80lbs of oil pressure! Looked through the parts listing...looks like all private individuals and used parts. I'm going to need new stuff like weather stripping and a windshield seal, rear window seal, etc.. Any idea on a source for that type of stuff?Jason Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30972-a-model-parts-source/#findComment-180663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vwjunkie Posted April 27, 2013 Author Share Posted April 27, 2013 Talked to Red Smith about the engine.. Sounds like there isn't much available for it, but a manual shouldn't be hard to find... Looks like ill be on the search for one next.Jason Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30972-a-model-parts-source/#findComment-180670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdog Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 mmost of the weatherstripping and stuff you can match up with NAPA or a glass shop.I have a little extra A model stuff. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30972-a-model-parts-source/#findComment-180683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 I have had good luck with Restoration Specialties for w/s, rubber plugs, grommets, rubber mat material for the floor, etc.They have a few things that are Mack A model specific but most items you will have to match up and get close.www.restorationspecialties.com/Jim Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30972-a-model-parts-source/#findComment-180688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vwjunkie Posted April 27, 2013 Author Share Posted April 27, 2013 Thanks for the link... Ill check it out.. Can't wait to see some more pics of this thing. Really hope I can work out a deal on it and get it home. Tooling around town in an A model is going to get some looks, I've never seen one in person anywhere around the Midwest.Jason Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30972-a-model-parts-source/#findComment-180696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxfymn Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 I have never had a real problem finding items for my A model. Mechanically I have found all the parts I needed to completely re-do the brakes and rebuild the rear end and transfer case. Body parts: I used a set of aftermarket headlights that are basically identical to the originals and the aforementioned Restoration Specialties had the hood lacing, fender welt, and hood corners I needed.As long as the basic sheet metal is sound you shouldn't have any problem locating any small items you need. Quote Money, sex, and fire; everybody thinks everyone else is getting more than they are! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30972-a-model-parts-source/#findComment-180700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shermentib61 Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Thats my dads A model I will post some photos on here , The Fenders, Hood and Grille are blasted and in etching primer in the garage and need minimal attention. The cab is really good ,the hardest part would be the glass but most glass shops should be able to cut glass and hook you up with the rubber . This thing is a walk in the park restoration compared to our w71 lol Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30972-a-model-parts-source/#findComment-180701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowmobile02067 Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 That last problem is mine. I need a cab. Otherwise I am going to be really good at welding. That one looks more solid then mine. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30972-a-model-parts-source/#findComment-180740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vwjunkie Posted April 28, 2013 Author Share Posted April 28, 2013 Ya the only stuff I was concerned about was the fixed window seals.. Also have been looking for a pic of how the cab floor looks. I understand its wood but haven't seen any good pics of how it looks. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30972-a-model-parts-source/#findComment-180741 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vwjunkie Posted April 28, 2013 Author Share Posted April 28, 2013 I've talked to your dad a few times on the phone about the truck.. He said he was going to get some more pics this weekend hopefully.. Jason Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30972-a-model-parts-source/#findComment-180749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog13407 Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 all the windows are flat glass and i think all the window mouldings are generic . you should not have any problem with any of that.unlike B Models where i think the front window rubber is made of gold along with the vent windows Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30972-a-model-parts-source/#findComment-180754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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