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Hmmm looks like Mack Australia is debuting their MP powered trucks. With Australia using allot of big power trucks its odd that they don't push for the MP10 (aka Volvo D16). Also what is curious is the MP8 offered at 500HP and 1770 ft/lbs. Also they seem to be pushing the Mack drive line more with pure breed components. Pretty cool lineup.

Now if they were smart here in the US, the CL replacement would be the new Superliner. An Australian like grille with MACK in big gold letters across the grille would fit the bill. Offer it in axle forward and axle back and make sure the hood is squared off for that classic look. It would be a success. Lots of people love the Superliner, hell it got a spot in a Disney film. Bringing back the Superliner!

-Thad

What America needs is less bull and more Bulldog!

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:mack1::bulldog3: thanks for posting the link on the board mack 3p but i have a question for you why they have in australia 435/465and 500hp MP8 engines and specialy the 500 hp they tell in there story that it is the same engine so why not in the us 500 hp greetings rene :MackLogo::idunno::thumb:
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Mackboy,

I would like to know why the 500 isn't available here as well.

The new lineup leaves out the Quantum cabover, CH (known as the fleetliner and valueliner) and Vision. It now shows the Granite which was not offered by Mack AU as a conventional truck instead putting it in with the Titan and Big Foot in their mining section. Are they just showing off their new updated models or are they eliminating the others? If the granite is going to replace the CH and vision what about sleeper models?

It would be sad of they eliminated the other models. If the CH, Vision and Quantum are indeed gone, I smell Volvo up to no good. They are doing whatever they can to shrink the Mack lineup to popular models, gradually phasing out less popular models to be replaced by their own. They tried it with the highway models here in the US by trying to eliminate the largest Mack sleeper to chase OOs to Volvo for highway work.

-Thad

What America needs is less bull and more Bulldog!

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Mackboy,

I would like to know why the 500 isn't available here as well.

The new lineup leaves out the Quantum cabover, CH (known as the fleetliner and valueliner) and Vision. It now shows the Granite which was not offered by Mack AU as a conventional truck instead putting it in with the Titan and Big Foot in their mining section. Are they just showing off their new updated models or are they eliminating the others? If the granite is going to replace the CH and vision what about sleeper models?

It would be sad of they eliminated the other models. If the CH, Vision and Quantum are indeed gone, I smell Volvo up to no good. They are doing whatever they can to shrink the Mack lineup to popular models, gradually phasing out less popular models to be replaced by their own. They tried it with the highway models here in the US by trying to eliminate the largest Mack sleeper to chase OOs to Volvo for highway work.

Thad, sorry to interrupt mate but I couldnt agree with you more on the new models. Our current models; the CH, vision, trident, superliner, qantum and titan are all being pushed aside. The qantum was the first to go, as Volvo will take up the cabover market. We hav 2 of them and they are a nice truck. But Mack are backward to have ever dropped the Ultraliner. They were the answer to kenworths cabover. They are a mile better truck.The vision is the only new model to keep the same shape and theyre calling it a granite. The new trident looks like your granite but has the MP8 under it. Its probably the pick of them as far as looks go. The new Titan looks terrible, it is supposed to be the toughest and hardest looking truck on the market and theyve turned it into a cross between a kenworth and an iveco, its very disappointing. There was nothing wrong with the current models, in fact they were selling well and looking like a mack should look and theyve just fucked it up really! I reckon if they offered the 500hp engine in the trident it would be perfect, because they were only available with a 470CCRS engine. This shouldve been done 5 years ago. Its very hard to follow their thinking. The same thing happened when they dropped the classic superliner II in 1990 and brought out the CLR. There is nothing wrong with a CLR but when you hop out of a big old square superliner it just doesnt have the same appeal getting into a curvy looking truck. After a few years they brought out the titan which was squarer and tougher looking and they were a lot more successful, although a lot of the market had been lost to kenworth. Maybe kenworth marketers should be employed by Mack! Thier range of trucks hasnt changed much in 30 years but they are market leaders out here. Sorry to ramble on mate. Hope there is something relevant in there. Cheers. :mack1:

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