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Im looing for thoughts on the Dale Francis built E9 headers, Im gonna have to replace my exhaust due to corrosion and leaks and I have heard pros and cons from others along the way so what do BMT members think?

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I probably could if I tried but I doubt my engine would last as long as his doing it, the Buckeye Bulldog and Killer Mack are some Bad Bad rides for sure.

"Any Society that would give up a little LIBERTY to gain a little SECURITY will Deserve Neither and LOSE BOTH" -Benjamin Franklin

"If your gonna be STUPID, you gotta be TOUGH"

"You cant always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you get what you need"

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Whew, if your actually working a truck at a slow speed and the manifolds start to glow you need to speed up or let out cause a piston is glowing too.

"Any Society that would give up a little LIBERTY to gain a little SECURITY will Deserve Neither and LOSE BOTH" -Benjamin Franklin

"If your gonna be STUPID, you gotta be TOUGH"

"You cant always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you get what you need"

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my grandfather said the old WC22T Whites with flathead gasjobs and split manfolds would get cherry red when pullin a hill. he said at night you could open the hood and it looked like you could stick a crowbar right thru the manifolds and when it rained the hoods use to be so hot the rain steamed right off the hood and it would be dry. they would outpull a B61 on a hill to.

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my grandfather said the old WC22T Whites with flathead gasjobs and split manfolds would get cherry red when pullin a hill. he said at night you could open the hood and it looked like you could stick a crowbar right thru the manifolds and when it rained the hoods use to be so hot the rain steamed right off the hood and it would be dry. they would outpull a B61 on a hill to.

My dad says the same thing. The old whites were notorious for cracking manifolds. The company he worked for that had white gas jobs would stock manifolds. They eventually would convert to headers instead of manifolds.

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Dad bought a used b61 with integral sleeper in the 6o's his first mack, he had a hot load of lumber that had to be in Pa the next morning,so he turned the fuel up on the pump, and took another driver with him, telling him not to hold the pedal down all the time. dad was in the sleeper when the truck quit running, motor was locked up. Got out look under the hood and said u could see through the exhaust manifold, he said they sat there for 2 hours let it cool down and it started back up and finished up the trip, but turned the fuel back down. The other driver went off a mountain in NC and turned the truck over with a load of lumber a year later, he still has the newpaper article he was there about 4 hours before being found and was pinned in the truck, they got him out and he was ok, them trucks could take a beating, and driver's too.

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my grandfather said the old WC22T Whites with flathead gasjobs and split manfolds would get cherry red when pullin a hill. he said at night you could open the hood and it looked like you could stick a crowbar right thru the manifolds and when it rained the hoods use to be so hot the rain steamed right off the hood and it would be dry. they would outpull a B61 on a hill to.

When I first started working on trucks there was still a lot f gas burners out there.I remember the old whites coming in the shop in the summer and you could lifet the hood up and the heat would almost burn the hair off of your face.There was all time a driver in a hurry and did not have time to let it cool off and the forman not having to work on it would give you a job on a hurry up deal.This is what me me and I would not change any of my working days.

glenn akers

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