Aussie400Valueliner Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 This is my first time posting so I hope everything works out okay.Can anyone tell me anything about this set up? The diffs are listed on my Mack's build list as SS441 but I've never seen a panhard rod set up like this on Camelback. The truck is an aussie built heavy spec 1990 R model Valueliner with a mechanical E7 400 and 12 speed with the previously mentioned 44's @ 4.42 shown in the images. It was set up as a logging prime mover for most of it's life so the panhard rod may have been a latter addition for strength or durability perhaps? 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/31950-ss441-diffs-with-panhard-rod/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Looks like someone reinforced the back plate for the lateral bar but otherwise seems ok. I have seen a couple of trucks that have "blown" out the frame mount for the lateral bar and then has to be patched also.It is a Mack design and part.Jim Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/31950-ss441-diffs-with-panhard-rod/#findComment-194380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie400Valueliner Posted July 16, 2013 Author Share Posted July 16, 2013 Great answer! I'll leave it there for the resto then. Thanks for the reply. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/31950-ss441-diffs-with-panhard-rod/#findComment-194385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 If I only knew how to post pictures I could show you the same setup on 3 of our Macks. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/31950-ss441-diffs-with-panhard-rod/#findComment-194395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2stacksuperdog Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Yep anything with 44k # or more has those i think Quote Matt Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/31950-ss441-diffs-with-panhard-rod/#findComment-194431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_martell Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 I'm not positive, but our 88 rd has a similar setup, minus the reinforcing plate. Next time Nick has the rails up, I'll snap a few pics.Edit: ours is not camelback probably won't help much. Sorry. Should maybe pay attention to what I'm reading.... Quote Lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.... Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/31950-ss441-diffs-with-panhard-rod/#findComment-194476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2stacksuperdog Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 i will get a pic of our superliner tomorrow Quote Matt Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/31950-ss441-diffs-with-panhard-rod/#findComment-194477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie400Valueliner Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share Posted July 17, 2013 I had a toss up between 2 trucks when I bought the one above. The one I passed up had 44's fitted but were listed by Mack as SS440. Note the single trunion on the torque rod on the SS440 and the double trunion on the SS441 along with panhard rod. Obviously not all 44's are created equal.My truck is also specced with a mechanical E7 400 vs the other truck with a E6 350. I also managed to score what looks like a Superliner dash as well vs the plainer R model Valueliner dash. A few other things like a chassis brace near the steering box make it a well specced truck from the factory. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/31950-ss441-diffs-with-panhard-rod/#findComment-194548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2stacksuperdog Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Whats a superliner dash? Quote Matt Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/31950-ss441-diffs-with-panhard-rod/#findComment-194551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie400Valueliner Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share Posted July 17, 2013 The 2 trucks that I looked at would've been in sight of each other going through the production line as they are only about 20 apart on their chassis numbers but looks like I scored the optioned up truck. Both trucks had the same 9" double rail chassis of the same length. The truck I passed up has been changed to an 18sp Roadranger as you can see but both left the factory with the Mack 12sp.This is my dash which reminds me of our Superliners we built over here.This is the basic Valueliner dash. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/31950-ss441-diffs-with-panhard-rod/#findComment-194557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2stacksuperdog Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I dont see a difference. Quote Matt Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/31950-ss441-diffs-with-panhard-rod/#findComment-194572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie400Valueliner Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share Posted July 17, 2013 The more comprehensive dash has extra gauges (mine has Mack rubber blanks where the diff and transmission temps usually sit in a Superliner dash), more switches and bright round idiot lights everywhere. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/31950-ss441-diffs-with-panhard-rod/#findComment-194594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2stacksuperdog Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Oh. I will stick to our superliner dash. less lights to fix but we have the fancy gauge package. Quote Matt Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/31950-ss441-diffs-with-panhard-rod/#findComment-194600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Would take me a while to shift left handed.Jim 2 Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/31950-ss441-diffs-with-panhard-rod/#findComment-194604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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