Deere Mack Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Good evening! I'm in the middle of rebuilding all the cylinders on a Deere 200C LC (yellow Hitachi with Deere stickers) and my mechanic only orders direct from Herculie's and the kits are 2 weeks on back order (give or take, go figure). I'm curious of a retailer that might have them in stock or another brand that would be as good or better, so I want have to spend twice the money at Deere. Any tips on a good online retailer and other brands will be a huge help! Thanks! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32076-hydraulic-cylinder-rebuild-kits/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
TozziWelding Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Try these guys, http://www.nh-hydraulics.com/index.htmthey can usually get us anything we need. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32076-hydraulic-cylinder-rebuild-kits/#findComment-196096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 I'll second that motion. My stuff is all small but they always have had parts in stock.Some of the cylinders in their shop for rebuilding are BIG time!Jim Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32076-hydraulic-cylinder-rebuild-kits/#findComment-196117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
slpwlker Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 I understand being cheap but at what cost. bite the bullet if online doesn't have them. By the time you factor in fluid loss and possible burned up pump, It will cost you more then getting them then. Only ran Cat OEM when we had machinery and now with my truck only Cat touches the engine. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32076-hydraulic-cylinder-rebuild-kits/#findComment-196134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deere Mack Posted July 27, 2013 Author Share Posted July 27, 2013 I understand being cheap but at what cost. bite the bullet if online doesn't have them. By the time you factor in fluid loss and possible burned up pump, It will cost you more then getting them then. Only ran Cat OEM when we had machinery and now with my truck only Cat touches the engine.Not trying to go the cheap way out, to much trouble to tear down four cylinders and go cheap. I feel the same way about certain things with Deere, but there is almost a $1k difference between hercules and deere for all four kits. I've had several mechanics, including my deere field mechanic say the hercules is just as good if not better in seal kits. But there no good if there not available! Just got a lead on these guys http://www.hddistributors.com Fingers crossed! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32076-hydraulic-cylinder-rebuild-kits/#findComment-196203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deere Mack Posted July 27, 2013 Author Share Posted July 27, 2013 Try these guys, http://www.nh-hydraulics.com/index.htmthey can usually get us anything we need.Thank you, I'll give em a try! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32076-hydraulic-cylinder-rebuild-kits/#findComment-196205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb502 Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 I get my kits for Deere equipment from Nortrax in LaVergne TN and they are consistently 20+% cheaper than ordering them thru James River Equipment which is the CSX preferred dealer. Quote "Any Society that would give up a little LIBERTY to gain a little SECURITY will Deserve Neither and LOSE BOTH" -Benjamin Franklin"If your gonna be STUPID, you gotta be TOUGH" "You cant always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you get what you need" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32076-hydraulic-cylinder-rebuild-kits/#findComment-196222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb502 Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Of course I call their excavators Yellotachi's, it fits and makes people wonder what the hell I'm talking about so I like it. Quote "Any Society that would give up a little LIBERTY to gain a little SECURITY will Deserve Neither and LOSE BOTH" -Benjamin Franklin"If your gonna be STUPID, you gotta be TOUGH" "You cant always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you get what you need" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32076-hydraulic-cylinder-rebuild-kits/#findComment-196223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deere Mack Posted July 29, 2013 Author Share Posted July 29, 2013 Ok, got the kits from H&D, good to do business with! Now I'm looking for a resource on the rods. I've got one that's worn/damaged enough that I'd rather replace it than re-chrome. Any one know of a good place to look for a new cylinder rod? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32076-hydraulic-cylinder-rebuild-kits/#findComment-196639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul roncetti Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Hi Tozzi, Do you think they would have the seals for the 3 telescoping piston for a Bristol Donald dump body? Thanks, Paul Quote RONCETTI Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32076-hydraulic-cylinder-rebuild-kits/#findComment-196641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TozziWelding Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 They might,if not I had luck with New England Hydraulics in Woburn. They did an oddball 4 stage ram for me, it cost me about $1000 for them to do it. If you pull it apart, Kenny at Capeway Bearing in Plymouth can usually match up what you have. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32076-hydraulic-cylinder-rebuild-kits/#findComment-196642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul roncetti Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Thanks, Is it better to give them the cylinders and let them do it or do it myself once I get the parts, Thanks, Paul Quote RONCETTI Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32076-hydraulic-cylinder-rebuild-kits/#findComment-196644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TozziWelding Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 It depends on how much time you have and what you have for tools, sometimes you need to take the big rosebud to them, weld a bar to the gland and beat the piss out of it to get it apart. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32076-hydraulic-cylinder-rebuild-kits/#findComment-196645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul roncetti Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 I can't do it myself but with a couple of my guys. The only thing I worry about is getting them off the body which can be a touchy situation. A number years back a kid down here had a one ton Ford dump truck and he got the big idea of changing the hydraulic hoses from the pump to the cylinder without blocking the body. I don't need to continue the story. Quote RONCETTI Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32076-hydraulic-cylinder-rebuild-kits/#findComment-196649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb502 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Multi stage cyliners are a pain, I take em to a hydraulic shop it's worth the money. Oh and if it starts leaking again you can take it back, if you do it its your baby, and all your wasted money and time. 1 Quote "Any Society that would give up a little LIBERTY to gain a little SECURITY will Deserve Neither and LOSE BOTH" -Benjamin Franklin"If your gonna be STUPID, you gotta be TOUGH" "You cant always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you get what you need" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32076-hydraulic-cylinder-rebuild-kits/#findComment-196653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deere Mack Posted July 29, 2013 Author Share Posted July 29, 2013 Where to get replacement rods that don't need machining, anyone? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32076-hydraulic-cylinder-rebuild-kits/#findComment-196654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TozziWelding Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 On that I would block up the body, pull them and drop them off to have them rebuilt. Going to cost you a penny or two, but there wont be any what ifs when it is all said and done. What are you going to use to pluck them out of the truck? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32076-hydraulic-cylinder-rebuild-kits/#findComment-196657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul roncetti Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 5 ton overhead crane Quote RONCETTI Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32076-hydraulic-cylinder-rebuild-kits/#findComment-196659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb502 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 With a 5tn crane id pull the body and use the time the cylinders were out to give the body a good once over for cracks and such, maybe even paint! Quote "Any Society that would give up a little LIBERTY to gain a little SECURITY will Deserve Neither and LOSE BOTH" -Benjamin Franklin"If your gonna be STUPID, you gotta be TOUGH" "You cant always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you get what you need" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32076-hydraulic-cylinder-rebuild-kits/#findComment-196709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb502 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 With a 5tn crane id pull the body and use the time the cylinders were out to give the body a good once over for cracks and such, maybe even paint! Quote "Any Society that would give up a little LIBERTY to gain a little SECURITY will Deserve Neither and LOSE BOTH" -Benjamin Franklin"If your gonna be STUPID, you gotta be TOUGH" "You cant always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you get what you need" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32076-hydraulic-cylinder-rebuild-kits/#findComment-196711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul roncetti Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 I think your right 84 as I am putting a bigger cab protector on it also. And the shop has two travelling 5 ton overhead cranes Quote RONCETTI Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32076-hydraulic-cylinder-rebuild-kits/#findComment-196713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb502 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 I would if I had an overhead crane that would lift it. Quote "Any Society that would give up a little LIBERTY to gain a little SECURITY will Deserve Neither and LOSE BOTH" -Benjamin Franklin"If your gonna be STUPID, you gotta be TOUGH" "You cant always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you get what you need" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32076-hydraulic-cylinder-rebuild-kits/#findComment-196718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TozziWelding Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Paul, if you don't mind me asking where are you in Falmouth. I did a ton of work down there when I lived in Plymouth. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32076-hydraulic-cylinder-rebuild-kits/#findComment-196750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul roncetti Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 I was in the industrial part in Cataumet but when I lost 3 men moved the machine shop back to E. Falmouth, My trucks are at another shop we work with in Mashpee. Quote RONCETTI Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32076-hydraulic-cylinder-rebuild-kits/#findComment-196752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deere Mack Posted July 30, 2013 Author Share Posted July 30, 2013 Got the rod from OEM replacement parts www.oemreplaceme.com . Great to do business with! Good luck with your project Paul! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32076-hydraulic-cylinder-rebuild-kits/#findComment-196850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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