snowmobile02067 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 I am working on an A40 restoration and my cab is completely shot. I have an opportunity to buy an E series (EE or EH) with a quite good cab. I have always heard they were the same cab, just wanted to confirm with the experts that it is a bolt on swap. I know I still have a lot of work to do with air lines, cab lights, and a lot of other things, but I will at least have a base to start with. Thank you again everybody Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32424-is-an-e-series-cab-the-same-as-an-a-cab/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdog Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 I've never measured but I'm sure the dimensions are the same,but there are slight differences. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32424-is-an-e-series-cab-the-same-as-an-a-cab/#findComment-201190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowmobile02067 Posted August 22, 2013 Author Share Posted August 22, 2013 Thank you very much. Any guesses if any of the differences make it not worth getting the cab? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32424-is-an-e-series-cab-the-same-as-an-a-cab/#findComment-201202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Most people won't know the difference.A models have side vents in the cowl, E models do not have side vents.A model doors have vent windows, E models have one piece door glass. The doors could be switched between cabs.It really depends on you. It is your truck and your money.Jim Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32424-is-an-e-series-cab-the-same-as-an-a-cab/#findComment-201225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowmobile02067 Posted August 22, 2013 Author Share Posted August 22, 2013 Thank you. Those are awesome answers and really help. I am really enjoying the project and am trying not to do too much that could bite me later. I have to get in the habit of taking pics and posting them. Everyone seems to enjoy them. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32424-is-an-e-series-cab-the-same-as-an-a-cab/#findComment-201239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike69mackman Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Yes sir we are picture junkies on this sight. Enjoy your project! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32424-is-an-e-series-cab-the-same-as-an-a-cab/#findComment-201246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
39 Baby Mack Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 There is, I believe, another difference which could be a problem.Some of the smaller "E" models have a shorter cowl on the cab.If you look at the ribs in the belt rail there are three going through the cowl to the hood.On the cabs with the longer cowl the ribs end in the cowl.On the cabs with the shorter cowl the bottom rib ends as a separate piece that slides onto a clip on the hood.All "A" models have the long cowl that's how there was room for the vents.Also although this doesn't make a difference as far as dimensions go the "E" model has an opening windshield and the "A" model windshield is fixed.Ron 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32424-is-an-e-series-cab-the-same-as-an-a-cab/#findComment-201259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowmobile02067 Posted August 23, 2013 Author Share Posted August 23, 2013 That is a little more concerning. My buddy is a master with sheet metal and I am hoping I can talk him into helping. Perhaps we could hybrid the cabs together. My truck is basically missing everything from the floor up about 6 inches. Just way over my head to make this, and way too much to ask anyone to help with. What exactly is the belt rail you are referring to? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32424-is-an-e-series-cab-the-same-as-an-a-cab/#findComment-201270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
39 Baby Mack Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 The belt rail is the dividing line between the upper and lower parts of the cab.The belt rail I'm referring to is the three ribs punched into the cab.They run all away around the cab, through the doors and end in the cowl with the one wide rib ending at the front of the hood. "A" model on the left with long cowl."DE" which is an "E" model on the right with short cowl.The "DE" was the next size up from the "ED"The "DE" was brought out a year later in 1939, the "ED" was '38.Never heard this from any authority but always figured it came to be as an afterthought.They had the "E" series established and then they decided they needed one in between the "ED" and the "EE".What are we going to call it?Let's flip the letters around and call it a "DE"!Ron 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32424-is-an-e-series-cab-the-same-as-an-a-cab/#findComment-201300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
39 Baby Mack Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 This is a picture of a larger "E" model.Pretty sure it's an "EH"This has the longer cowl on it, notice that the upper and lower belt rail ribs end in the cowl and don't extend into the hood.Notice how wide the cowl is.Very confusing to say the least.If you look in some of the books I've seen pictures of "DE"'s with long cowl cabs as well.And last but not least the first "E" model cabs were composition cabs with wood frames and tin tacked to the framework!Ron Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32424-is-an-e-series-cab-the-same-as-an-a-cab/#findComment-201312 Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowmobile02067 Posted August 23, 2013 Author Share Posted August 23, 2013 That is great to know. I will have to do some more research. The truck I am looking at is an EE. I think I can attach a pic, is this the long or the short cowl? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32424-is-an-e-series-cab-the-same-as-an-a-cab/#findComment-201313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2stacksuperdog Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Truck looks too good to be cut up and fabricated. Quote Matt Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32424-is-an-e-series-cab-the-same-as-an-a-cab/#findComment-201315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
39 Baby Mack Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 That's the short cowl.Maybe it could be modified but I don't know how much work would be involved?Ron Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32424-is-an-e-series-cab-the-same-as-an-a-cab/#findComment-201316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowmobile02067 Posted August 23, 2013 Author Share Posted August 23, 2013 I agree with all of you that it looks good, hence my interest in the cab. This I making me want to explore other options and I hate to back out of a deal after a handshake. The truck is in MA and it was her late husbands project. There is also an A30 that is in tougher shape, sadly not as bad as my cab, that comes with it. I had the 2 trucks for 2 grand and hoped to use a handful of A parts and the EE cab. I am glad for all the help. Like I said, trying not to do too much that will bite me later. If anyone is interested in the trucks PM me, It is the least I can do to help find them a good home. It just does not seem like it will work to put an EE cab on an A40. Thank you everyone. And if anyone knows where there is a decent A40 cab, please let me know. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32424-is-an-e-series-cab-the-same-as-an-a-cab/#findComment-201322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxfymn Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I'd hate to see it cut up, but Mike Yarnall has an A40 fire truck that he was trying to sell. Don't know if he still has it. http://www.bigmacktrucks.com/index.php?/user/7810-yarnall/ Quote Money, sex, and fire; everybody thinks everyone else is getting more than they are! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32424-is-an-e-series-cab-the-same-as-an-a-cab/#findComment-201364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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