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Eh, the early emissions trucks meaning pre dpf or massive egr can be OK, my 04 Granite did OK. I would rather have an early 04 back too but some companies won't let you run anything over 10 yes old so ya know. I think I could buy a 03 back CHN with an Etech and rebuild or replaceveverything in the drive train with warrantied reman components, repaint it and replace the interior for under $75000 and it would last a hell of a lot longer than this new junk.

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"Any Society that would give up a little LIBERTY to gain a little SECURITY will Deserve Neither and LOSE BOTH" -Benjamin Franklin

"If your gonna be STUPID, you gotta be TOUGH"

"You cant always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you get what you need"

I know it's not related to this mack topic, but we are a dealer for Terex off road dump trucks, Terex lately took a position to deny as many warranty claims as possible to keep the profit margins up. So we deal with a lot of angry end users, and mostly we try to help them out thru our own check book. I guess it's corporate policy to go this route and screw the end users.

I know it's not related to this mack topic, but we are a dealer for Terex off road dump trucks, Terex lately took a position to deny as many warranty claims as possible to keep the profit margins up. So we deal with a lot of angry end users, and mostly we try to help them out thru our own check book. I guess it's corporate policy to go this route and screw the end users.

I was told by a Mack service manager, ex parts manager that Volvo has told them 15 years was the max Volvo will back a truck after that no parts will be produced and there will be no technical help thru corporate.

"Any Society that would give up a little LIBERTY to gain a little SECURITY will Deserve Neither and LOSE BOTH" -Benjamin Franklin

"If your gonna be STUPID, you gotta be TOUGH"

"You cant always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you get what you need"

I was told by a Mack service manager, ex parts manager that Volvo has told them 15 years was the max Volvo will back a truck after that no parts will be produced and there will be no technical help thru corporate.

We still get parts and technical help for Volvo D12a,b,c. We havent needed much tech help with the old girls but Volvo did point us in the right direction a few times.

We still get parts and technical help for Volvo D12a,b,c. We havent needed much tech help with the old girls but Volvo did point us in the right direction a few times.

Hope they will for Mack in the future, they have said no but only time will tell.

"Any Society that would give up a little LIBERTY to gain a little SECURITY will Deserve Neither and LOSE BOTH" -Benjamin Franklin

"If your gonna be STUPID, you gotta be TOUGH"

"You cant always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you get what you need"

  • 8 years later...

I'm buying a 2013 with a mp7 that's showing 1 1/2 mil on the Odom, there saying it's used up ,but it still gets 8.8mpg, and does not use oil, is it still recommend to rebuild it... it's been governor run @67mph it's whole life, pulling 60k ,I'll be pulling 30k ...it has a 12 speed automatic in it

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