Keffer inc Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Hello. I was checking my truck and saw oil on my front axle shoes and drums. Checked my hub oil level, which is down. So I figure its an inner wheel seal. Just wanted to know if this is a project one can do in a 12 hour window before the truck goes on another trip. Also do I need to take all the brakes apart or will I be lucky by only sliding the drum off? Truck is equipped with ABS. Are any pullers or special tools required? Thanks. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32886-1999-ch613-front-axle-inner-wheel-seal/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatcity Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 As long as you have the proper size seals, BOTH sets of wheel bearings (just in case) This can be done in about an hour. Pull drum, outer axle nut, keeper washer, inner axle nut, remove hub.Knock out old seal, check both sets of bearings real good. Clean everything well before reversing the process.inner axle nut torque to 250, back off a full turn, then torque to 50. and back off one flat.pour oil on bearings before setting back in place. Load up on oil and turn. As you put things back, keep turning wheel and checking oil level.*** when doing first torque on the inner nut, keep turning wheel to insure evenI found one on mine and had it done in an hour. Only seal was needed.Even if you needed to replace bearings and race, 12 hours is plenty Quote Success is only a stones throw away.................................................................for a Palestinian Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32886-1999-ch613-front-axle-inner-wheel-seal/#findComment-207894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex g Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 not sure about abs but I know without you can back off your slack adjuster pull the oil seal on the outside off the wheel undo the lock nuts pull the wheel attatched to the hub pop the seal out install a new seal should take about an hour brakes stay attatched unless there soaked in oil dry them off and your ready to burn fuel. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32886-1999-ch613-front-axle-inner-wheel-seal/#findComment-207897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keffer inc Posted September 23, 2013 Author Share Posted September 23, 2013 Yeah, they're soaked bad. Thanks for the response and advise on the bearing, wouldn't have thought of that until Mack closes for the night. What would you guess on parts price? Money is a pretty tight as we are just getting stated. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32886-1999-ch613-front-axle-inner-wheel-seal/#findComment-207916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatcity Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 If your brakes are soaked as bad as you stated, the bearings may have been damaged.Bearing sets (2) are about $40 each. The seal maybe $20, couple cans of Brakleen and some oilLooks like about $100 if you do the work. Not rocket science, but you just have to remember how it came apart.Clean EVERYTHING real goodAlso forgot, the only "special" tools would be the correct size socket for the axle nuts. Mine has 2 sizes. Also, be careful moving the hub around so as not to damage the ABS tone ring Quote Success is only a stones throw away.................................................................for a Palestinian Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32886-1999-ch613-front-axle-inner-wheel-seal/#findComment-207921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keffer inc Posted September 23, 2013 Author Share Posted September 23, 2013 Cool, I already pulled my outer seal to check I had the socket for the bearing nut. Thanks again Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32886-1999-ch613-front-axle-inner-wheel-seal/#findComment-207929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keffer inc Posted September 24, 2013 Author Share Posted September 24, 2013 I failed. Couldn't get the old seal out, whats the best way? Try to pry it out, knock the inner bearing out with it? Not too sure what to do when I get to it. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32886-1999-ch613-front-axle-inner-wheel-seal/#findComment-208235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keffer inc Posted September 24, 2013 Author Share Posted September 24, 2013 Bearings are in good shape Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32886-1999-ch613-front-axle-inner-wheel-seal/#findComment-208236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
log hauler Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Yes, knock.the inner bearing out with the seal. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32886-1999-ch613-front-axle-inner-wheel-seal/#findComment-208237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex g Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 yes you knock the bearing out with the seal make sure you use a brass punch or equivailent so you don't wreck your bearing Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32886-1999-ch613-front-axle-inner-wheel-seal/#findComment-208238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKS Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 What the heck are you guys telling him,just pry the seal out,it will pop right out,don't go beating on your bearings with a brass punch or anything else.. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32886-1999-ch613-front-axle-inner-wheel-seal/#findComment-208244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
log hauler Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 What the heck are you guys telling him,just pry the seal out,it will pop right out,don't go beating on your bearings with a brass punch or anything else.. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32886-1999-ch613-front-axle-inner-wheel-seal/#findComment-208245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
log hauler Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 It will pop right out? Haha that's funny. You must live in a perfect world... Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32886-1999-ch613-front-axle-inner-wheel-seal/#findComment-208246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKS Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 It will pop right out? Haha that's funny. You must live in a perfect world...lol wouldn't that be great,I use one of those j shaped crow bars,pry it out,very easy,maybe I don't understand how you do it,you don't hit on the bearing it's self do you? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32886-1999-ch613-front-axle-inner-wheel-seal/#findComment-208273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatcity Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Yep. The seal is holding the bearing in. Just a couple light taps will drive it out. No need for the BFH.Now, if the bearing is damaged, erego, the race, that's a different story.Of course, WE are all assuming the seal is the type that goes into the hub. Stemco's that actually go on the spindle is another issue. Quote Success is only a stones throw away.................................................................for a Palestinian Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32886-1999-ch613-front-axle-inner-wheel-seal/#findComment-208276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
log hauler Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 We have a long brass drift we use, a couple hits like hatcity said and it's out. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32886-1999-ch613-front-axle-inner-wheel-seal/#findComment-208284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keffer inc Posted September 25, 2013 Author Share Posted September 25, 2013 When installing my new seal, do I just stick it on dry or do i need to lube it? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32886-1999-ch613-front-axle-inner-wheel-seal/#findComment-208297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatcity Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Sorry we left ya hangin' there KefferDry. test fit it on your spindle first just to make sure.Oil on the bearing, set in place on the race. Seal on.IF you don't have the proper seal tool, use a good flat piece of wood.Tap lightly and move it around the seal to insure even setYou will hear a different sound when it gets there Quote Success is only a stones throw away.................................................................for a Palestinian Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32886-1999-ch613-front-axle-inner-wheel-seal/#findComment-208553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackdog2 Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Use a crows foot or a tire iron L-shape I seen a lot bearings where the cages are worn . Quote Ed Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32886-1999-ch613-front-axle-inner-wheel-seal/#findComment-208695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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