mack mhe9 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Yes . I could careless. All I do is pay in and don't collect a thing. I like when they say all the services that will be affected and I think why's the federal gov paying for this any way? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32986-gov-shut-down/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdogtrucker Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I wonder how much time we have until things really unravel??? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32986-gov-shut-down/#findComment-209386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterMack Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Since the Government isn't providing all services we all get a tax break right? Ha! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32986-gov-shut-down/#findComment-209388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTFormula Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 So with the Govt on shut down, things are actually going go smoother now right? Quote ~ JT Burkard ~ AKA Sweaty Mack www.jonathanthomasmotorcars.com Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32986-gov-shut-down/#findComment-209389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Probably.Just a bunch of morons in the "beltway" anyways.Remember, don't be a criminal because the government and esp. senators and congress don't like the competition! Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32986-gov-shut-down/#findComment-209395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Remember when that lying bastard said "If you like your insurance, you can keep your insurance"? I received a letter from BCBS yesterday that said under The Affordable Care Act, we are unable to offer your current plan. The plan we can offer will have a premium increase of 295%. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32986-gov-shut-down/#findComment-209399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Remember when that lying bastard said "If you like your insurance, you can keep your insurance"? I received a letter from BCBS yesterday that said under The Affordable Care Act, we are unable to offer your current plan. The plan we can offer will have a premium increase of 295%.That increase now makes you eligible for Food Stamps and 6 Obama phones. . .Now, why is this shut down worse that Bill Clintons? Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32986-gov-shut-down/#findComment-209429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TozziWelding Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Can I stop paying taxes to the assholes since they are shutdown...... Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32986-gov-shut-down/#findComment-209432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb502 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 The really screwed up part is that the republicans offered several stop gap financing measures to keep it going with obamacare being the only thing to take a real cut but instead of trying to find some middle ground the dems just refused period. I just dont understand why they are fighting like a bunch of fucking 4 year olds knowing the people they represent are the ones that will suffer, you better believe they arent going to take no pay for the duration of this shutdown. Now why is it that national cememtaries and the national monuments and other national parks, etc had to be closed, as i recall they are just open to the outside, there is no one there to admit you, no electricity, so the govt spent who knows how many hundreds of thousands of dollars to hire security and pay law enforcement to patrol the areas and keep them cordoned off, uh why does that not make sense to me? I wonder if they will withhold all the welfare checks and all the free cell phones during this shut down, uh no why would they hurt their key source of voters. The new Healthcare reform bill is a piece of shit from one end to the other, I got a letter in the mail from work letting me know the new rules and that I am above the minimum standards so mine wont change until I have to use it, then my copays triple and after this contract is up our insurace that is capped at $200/mo now will also double. I love the way the act is worded it makes so little sense its hilarious, so one of the lines is that federal law requires each state to make a health care exchange to be used as a marketplace for healthcare insurance, and govornment subsidies are available for coverage purchased there but only if your employer does not offer health care insurance or it fails to meet the federal affordable coverage guidlines. Ok so the affordable coverage guidlines state that if the cost of a plan from your employer that covers you alone (single coverage) is no more than 9.5% of your yearly "household" income it is considered affordable, wtf? That means if I was married and my wife and i both earned $100,000/yr we would have household income of $200,000/yr so my single coverage is considered affordable if it costs less than $19,000/yr, are you freaking kidding me, thats almost $1600/month for single coverage! The plans also meet federal "minimum value" limits as long as the plan covers no less than 60% of the covered services. In conclusion if you have a household income of $100,000/yr, your insurance is considered affordable and has a legal minimum value if it costs you less than $9500/yr and if you have a major surgery that costs $100,000 you only have to cover $40,000 of the cost, wow, thanks obama for the great insurance there, only $49,500 out of pocket. I sure am glad Im not just goin this alone and having to come up with a ridiculous amount of money out of pocket or anything, I mean wow if I didnt have that great insurance I might end up owing medical bills for a few years. Quote "Any Society that would give up a little LIBERTY to gain a little SECURITY will Deserve Neither and LOSE BOTH" -Benjamin Franklin"If your gonna be STUPID, you gotta be TOUGH" "You cant always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you get what you need" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32986-gov-shut-down/#findComment-209438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TozziWelding Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I already have a shit "high deductible" plan cost me $10,000 out of pocket when we had my daughter, and I live in MA so I have been "blessed" with healthcare reform since Romney was Governor. I need a nice gravy public sector hack job......... Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32986-gov-shut-down/#findComment-209443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 But our benevolent dear leaders speech says this is all propagada and scare tactics from Fox News on his wonderful plan. Guess thats why my letter this afternoon from Blue Cross/ Blue Shield tells me my pre existing conditions (that forced me to hire an Adocate to deal with the VA on my combat injuries) will only increase my monthly fees from $1533.76 to $4987.72 . . .a month with a "sliding" (?) deductable (min of $5000.) The NYS allows premiums to be not higher than 33% of total income for those with pre existing conditions. AFHC my arse Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32986-gov-shut-down/#findComment-209459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomastractorsvc Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 keeping my fingers crossed that this new health care act does not hurt my military medical retirement benefits, spoke with my doctor and he is still going to keep accepting Tricare. Quote Robert"I reject your reality and substitute my own." Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32986-gov-shut-down/#findComment-209461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb502 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 But our benevolent dear leaders speech says this is all propagada and scare tactics from Fox News on his wonderful plan. Guess thats why my letter this afternoon from Blue Cross/ Blue Shield tells me my pre existing conditions (that forced me to hire an Adocate to deal with the VA on my combat injuries) will only increase my monthly fees from $1533.76 to $4987.72 . . .a month with a "sliding" (?) deductable (min of $5000.) The NYS allows premiums to be not higher than 33% of total income for those with pre existing conditions. AFHC my arseThat is BULLSHIT! I can't believe this crap is being forced on us even with half of the medical field saying it will make everything more expensive. Bunch of fucking crooks! And Washington got to opt out of this but we can't! Grrrrrr. Quote "Any Society that would give up a little LIBERTY to gain a little SECURITY will Deserve Neither and LOSE BOTH" -Benjamin Franklin"If your gonna be STUPID, you gotta be TOUGH" "You cant always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you get what you need" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32986-gov-shut-down/#findComment-209489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullhusk Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Just thank the 13 million people who didn't vote!! We had our chance and we blew it!! Now we got 3 more years of this shit!! The thing that bothers me is this Supreme Court judge that changed Obama care to pass it through?? Something just smells rotten here? Something called a penalety is changed to a tax by a judge? How does one do something like that and get away with it? Tell me does something not sound wrong here or is it just sour grapes on my partBullhusk Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32986-gov-shut-down/#findComment-209533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdogtrucker Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Hope everybody's stocking up on the essentials,the way things are going never know when things will make a drastic turn for the worse.Even if it's only short term... Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32986-gov-shut-down/#findComment-209536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
br549 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I figured it out, it's simple the harder we work, the better they live (47%) Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32986-gov-shut-down/#findComment-209537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearhead204 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I,m not startin a revolution , but i'll damn well go'na join it when it comes past my door!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32986-gov-shut-down/#findComment-209540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mack Doctor Jr. Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Its just flat out all wrong. I cant even talk about it without yelling! Im gonna go broke to insure my family. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32986-gov-shut-down/#findComment-209541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer52 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I just read that government employess will not be paid.....but our elected officials still get paid. What is wrong with this picture? Quote Ken PRR Country and Charter member of the "Mack Pack" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32986-gov-shut-down/#findComment-209588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack mhe9 Posted October 2, 2013 Author Share Posted October 2, 2013 Its just flat out all wrong. I cant even talk about it without yelling! Im gonna go broke to insure my family.Our biggest expenses 1 fuel, 2 taxes, 3 insurances, added ups over half our income. It's sickening. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32986-gov-shut-down/#findComment-209596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gmerrill0516 Posted October 2, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted October 2, 2013 If the lies get repeated enough they start to become truth or so they hope. The FACTS are that this is going to cost a ton of money. The Feds can't keep the post office in the black, and can't run ANYTHING efficiently as they have no incentive to do so. When you don't have natural competition, there is no reason to provide good service and the life gets sucked out of whatever endevour they are undertaking. This is a redistribution of wealth and one more step in the direction of a socialist society. We are becoming the USSR as they are head toward a more capitalist society. Coruption becomes rampant, the people are no longer represented and as one government worker put it today, the level of frustration at not being heard is unbearable!!! Go figure.The deaper problem is that voting or not, we are not represented. The percentage of voters against Obamacare is overwealming but it moves forward anyway. Romeny was a poor excuse for a "conservative" candidate and frankly he got the ball rolling with Romneycare here in the peoples republic of Taxachusetts. I'm so dam sick of people telling me how I should live, what insurance I can buy and so on it's not funny. WE are the people and the govenrment has gotten out of control We refuse to secure our borders from every third world hell hole as if it is our responsibility to take care of the world. This is to get voters or chap labor depending upon what side of the aisle you are on. The problem is that us working stiffs can't carry the load for all teh dead weight and labor rates are driven down as a result of the glut of people willing to work for $8.00 an hour. Again, free enterprise has a solution for that if you close the border. The country will be defeated from within by greed and coruption and nobody cares or is willing to do a dam thing about it. "We" are so willing to give away all that our forefathers fought and died for as if we are guilty for having built a successful and great contry. With the lack of constitutional law abidance, we are screwed. WE either follow it as it was intended or we are done. It may already be too late as we clearly no longer have the will to enforce existing law (review imigration law vs what we "allow" for example) Congress spent a bunch of time trying to pass laws that say the same dam thing that is already law that the government refuses to and infact prevents from being inforced. We need a solution and we need to VOTE for officials that follow constutional LAW and I don't mean like Obama who says one thing and does another every day. IT's the old piss down my back and tell me its raining thing...Otherwise kiss America good bye. IT will cease to exist. Remember Rome which was killed by appathy and corruption from within with the help of open borders etc. Those who fail to learn from history are destined to repeat it.Now you got me going... 5 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32986-gov-shut-down/#findComment-209598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 (IDIOTS),,make you proud to be an american woohoo...bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32986-gov-shut-down/#findComment-209628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayDee Rud Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 The death of a capitalist and free society is when there are enough people to vote in the person that promises the most free shit. There is only so much to go around, both money and workers! I agree, we need to VOTE in the change, if it's not too late, We need to "take out the trash" in Washington and local governments. Most politicians are in office for their own personal gain and ego trip, non of us actually thought they would go without pay in a shutdown, if they had to there would be no shutdown. What scares me is when a dingbat like Pelosi says "the cupboards are empty, there is no where else to cut." Are you shittin me!!!! How the hell does she stay in office?!?!?! That is the mentality we are up against, yes, up against, it's like us against them anymore trying to hold on to a little dignity and money. I'm afraid it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better...... 2 Quote Mack Daddy Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32986-gov-shut-down/#findComment-209644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marcel67 Posted October 2, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted October 2, 2013 Can't we keep the goverment to be shut down!!! All they do is fuck up a great country. Well came here 23 years ago from Europe ( the netherlands) to escape the bullshit rules taxes and crap to control your health care and the way you live etc. all this goverment crap didnt work over there and to cover these fuckups yes more taxes. If you owne a company they make it impossible to succeed or start one. Only with cheeting taxes using offshore accounts and more back road shit they stay in business.The one that start a company are going bankrupt with in 5 years due to the goverment impute or bullshit regulations. I started with nothing in this country and build up something nice only to fear that we be coming the same as European socialism that don't work and loose it all. Also thanks to the brave American soldiers our country got there freedom back during worldwar 2 . America should walk from the European approach and keep the country the way it was founded. Now we know why the Europeans like bobo Obama so much! He is like one of those idiots!When I was driving my Mh home from Colorado I drove thru the nice little towns and spoke with some folks on the way to Florida and boy they are angry! Sorry wanted to vent. 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32986-gov-shut-down/#findComment-209669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 No money for Veterens or for military famlies on bases but as soon as the shut down hits The Great Leader gives 320 million to Detriot. The WWII vets that went to the WWII Memorial yesterday and to day I feel are leading by example. . .take no sh*t and don't let the feds push you around, It Is our country Tell The Great Leader if he can negotiate with the Muslims he can negociate with the American People!Yesterday "speech", dear leader was saying his daughter had encefalitus last year, and how him and Moose were worried how they were going to pay the medical bills.......and the media cheering squad lauded how he has the same worries as the little people. He also mentionedthe small business loans were stopped, so he didn;t know how employers are going to pay their employees with out the loans! LOL I'm going to opt for my inital $95.00 "tax" for no insurance. Beat almost 60 K a year for "insurance" under his plan.. Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/32986-gov-shut-down/#findComment-209670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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