farmer52 Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Saw this article this morning on Heavy Duty Trucking site.Driving the Museum's B61.http://www.truckinginfo.com/blog/on-the-road/story/2013/10/twin-sticks-to-no-sticks-trucks-have-sure-come-a-long-way-baby.aspx?utm_campaign=Headline-News-20131022&utm_source=Email&utm_medium=Enewsletter 1 Quote Ken PRR Country and Charter member of the "Mack Pack" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33226-twin-sticks-to-no-sticks-hdt-article/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxfymn Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Thanks; great article. Quote Money, sex, and fire; everybody thinks everyone else is getting more than they are! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33226-twin-sticks-to-no-sticks-hdt-article/#findComment-212842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Dash Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Nice article. The fact that the author has "walked the walk" is a plus.I remember when several of Overdrive's writers took their CDL road tests together in Pete 387's, with Autoshifts of course. Quote Jim Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33226-twin-sticks-to-no-sticks-hdt-article/#findComment-212864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xdudebrahx Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Is that a typo about splitting the shift to 4th on a 6 speed? I've asked that same question here and was told to not do it. I'm assuming he meant first gear? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33226-twin-sticks-to-no-sticks-hdt-article/#findComment-212886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
39 Baby Mack Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Great article Ken, thanks for posting!Ron Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33226-twin-sticks-to-no-sticks-hdt-article/#findComment-212887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lmackattack Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Is that a typo about splitting the shift to 4th on a 6 speed? I've asked that same question here and was told to not do it. I'm assuming he meant first gear?He might be thinking of theorally version 2 stick 6 speed that had a hi and low. It was an overdrive trans if I recall. one reverse, 6 forward speeds, ....start in low 1, 2,3,4, shift to 4hi, 5 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33226-twin-sticks-to-no-sticks-hdt-article/#findComment-212914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ditchkus Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 If it is a 6 speed 2 stick to start out on hard surfaces loaded start out in first in main and compound in direct. If in soft material or other bad conditions put main in direct and compound in low either first gear or reverse. It has 6 speeds forward and 5 reverse.There were some overdrive versions but all I ever saw or owned were direct in fifth.This trans was not designed to split gears like a du-plex,tri-plex or quadbox.You could shift gears in reverse while moving. It was a great trans but if you had 4.64 rear ratio it was a bit slow in direct drive version. Joe D. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33226-twin-sticks-to-no-sticks-hdt-article/#findComment-212961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog13407 Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 yup, argued with many people over the years that called them 10 speeds and I would say no its a 6 speed, its not meant to split every gear! 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33226-twin-sticks-to-no-sticks-hdt-article/#findComment-212977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomastractorsvc Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 My R model 6 speed is5 reverse1 low2 low/high3 high4 high5 high I read in the owners manual or a sticker not to operate in low any gears other than 1 & 2 as it can cause damage Quote Robert"I reject your reality and substitute my own." Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33226-twin-sticks-to-no-sticks-hdt-article/#findComment-212990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xdudebrahx Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 This is on my dash. I didn't know there was a different version of this trans. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33226-twin-sticks-to-no-sticks-hdt-article/#findComment-213010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomastractorsvc Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 I was going by memory, and after reading I am partially wrong, my truck is a 1980 what year is yours?Here is what the manual says for the transmission, mine is the TRXL107, It says it is "impractical" to use Low in any gear other than 1st. When Bobtail I use it in Low with 2nd and then shift to High than 3,4,5.When I first got the truck I tried starting out in Low 1st and High 1st and it wants to start bucking. I guess that is why I use Low 2 than high 2. Quote Robert"I reject your reality and substitute my own." Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33226-twin-sticks-to-no-sticks-hdt-article/#findComment-213015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
countryboy5487 Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Very interesting article. Ok ill have to throw in my pennies on the 6spd. Now dont know if this is "the right way" but it works with my dm. I can start in low 1,2,3,4,5 shift to high and main back to 4th and 5th. Now it might not be recommended shifting but it doesnt seem to "double" any ratio's and dont grind kick or buck. Have also shifted low 1,2,3,4,5 then shift to high tranny liked it fine but was too big of a ratio jump to be comfy Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33226-twin-sticks-to-no-sticks-hdt-article/#findComment-213025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xdudebrahx Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 I was going by memory, and after reading I am partially wrong, my truck is a 1980 what year is yours?Here is what the manual says for the transmission, mine is the TRXL107, It says it is "impractical" to use Low in any gear other than 1st. When Bobtail I use it in Low with 2nd and then shift to High than 3,4,5.When I first got the truck I tried starting out in Low 1st and High 1st and it wants to start bucking. I guess that is why I use Low 2 than high 2. {C7417D22-67D9-4642-9214-5137F408EB36}.png{C7417D22-67D9-4642-9214-5137F408EB36a}.pngInteresting to see the manual. My truck is an 86 R. I'm mostly on city streets so starting in 1st direct is fine. I only use low in the mud or crawling out of a hole. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33226-twin-sticks-to-no-sticks-hdt-article/#findComment-213038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 I have the same trans except it has air so it is a 107A. It is never loaded heavy so I use it as a 5 spd. I like the creeper gear if needed and really like having choices with multiple reverse gears. Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33226-twin-sticks-to-no-sticks-hdt-article/#findComment-213039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ditchkus Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 If you have a trans. PTO with the 6 speed you put the compound in neutral and use the main in any gear. I used second or third for dump work with the % rate of my PTO pump. If you use compound in low range until you shift to 5th gear there is a very large spread in speed. Joe D. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33226-twin-sticks-to-no-sticks-hdt-article/#findComment-213076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb502 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 If you could run a slow truck race in reverse that low-1 combo would kill em, 36.66 that's low. Quote "Any Society that would give up a little LIBERTY to gain a little SECURITY will Deserve Neither and LOSE BOTH" -Benjamin Franklin"If your gonna be STUPID, you gotta be TOUGH" "You cant always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you get what you need" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33226-twin-sticks-to-no-sticks-hdt-article/#findComment-213090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenlunberg Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Great article. I've enjoyed reading it. Thanks for sharing! Quote Heavy Hauling Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33226-twin-sticks-to-no-sticks-hdt-article/#findComment-213100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gvam Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Hey isn't that link at the bottom of the article Freightrain's famous shifting video? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33226-twin-sticks-to-no-sticks-hdt-article/#findComment-213259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freightrain Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Yup, that be me. First time I tried to get the article it crashed out. Finally got it to load so I could read it.They could have linked the two handed version also? More fitting to go with their pictures. Quote Larry 1959 B61 Liv'n Large...................... Charter member of the "MACK PACK" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33226-twin-sticks-to-no-sticks-hdt-article/#findComment-213267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
other dog Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Yes, holy mackerel, Freightrain's an even bigger star now, millions of - well, wait a minute, it could be billions- of people have seen that video now...if they'd all send Larry just one measly dollar bill each, just think of the possibilities...by the way, I sent a dollar several years ago, hope it didn't get lost in the mail. Quote Producer of poorly photo-chopped pictures since 1999. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33226-twin-sticks-to-no-sticks-hdt-article/#findComment-213274 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freightrain Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 I've noticed that the 4 people that used to have my videos on Youtube have been falling off. Guess I need to finally download them myself?? Quote Larry 1959 B61 Liv'n Large...................... Charter member of the "MACK PACK" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33226-twin-sticks-to-no-sticks-hdt-article/#findComment-213280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vision386 Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Good article! nice to see someones opinion that's not "all the old trucks were terrible" for a change! todays drivers couldn't handle a B-Model (or anything else with two sticks) which is a shame,because the ability to drive two sticks is a lost and dying art! .........................................Mark 2 Quote Mack Truck literate. Computer illiterate. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33226-twin-sticks-to-no-sticks-hdt-article/#findComment-213373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
countryboy5487 Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 I agree it is a dying art. Im trying to get the hang of it by self teaching. It would just be easier to spend a afternoon with someone who could really make her sing Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33226-twin-sticks-to-no-sticks-hdt-article/#findComment-213434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer52 Posted October 27, 2013 Author Share Posted October 27, 2013 Good article! nice to see someones opinion that's not "all the old trucks were terrible" for a change! todays drivers couldn't handle a B-Model (or anything else with two sticks) which is a shame,because the ability to drive two sticks is a lost and dying art! .........................................MarkOn Friday I helped Doug move some new Macks (6 if I remember correctly) for display at Trucktoberfest. All of them were AUTO! Quote Ken PRR Country and Charter member of the "Mack Pack" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33226-twin-sticks-to-no-sticks-hdt-article/#findComment-213503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog man Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 I drove the 2 stick 6 spd 1 & 2 in low the low to direct I the compound & then 3 4 5 in the main . When I had the pto engaged & was raising a dump bed I was no higher than 3rd gear in the main. There were a few times the 5 reverse gears came in handy to get into soft ground w/ a load . Quote You Cant Fix Stupid. But You Can Numb It With A Sledgehammer. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33226-twin-sticks-to-no-sticks-hdt-article/#findComment-213619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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