shally Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 l hace rebuilt a ch 613 mack after a major crash. It is not starting , engine turns but not firing?? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33301-mack-ch-613-will-not-start-after-a-major-crash-repair/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Challenger Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Engine ECUs can be damaged from wrecks. Plug in a known good engine ecu. If it runs you have a bad EECU. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33301-mack-ch-613-will-not-start-after-a-major-crash-repair/#findComment-213936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shally Posted October 30, 2013 Author Share Posted October 30, 2013 i plugged the ecu in another truck and it runs??? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33301-mack-ch-613-will-not-start-after-a-major-crash-repair/#findComment-214016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
turckster Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Check for voltage to ecu(s). Does the malfunction and shut-down lights come on when the ignition is keyed on? What year is the truck? Need a little more information. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33301-mack-ch-613-will-not-start-after-a-major-crash-repair/#findComment-214180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shally Posted October 31, 2013 Author Share Posted October 31, 2013 ch 613 vin IMIAA13YOWN096856 all light s are on ignitionif l spray cold start in air inlet engine runs only then Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33301-mack-ch-613-will-not-start-after-a-major-crash-repair/#findComment-214185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
turckster Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 While cranking the engine loosen an injection line to see if fuel is being delivered. If not, could be there is no fuel to pump or the pump rack is not responding (inline inj. pump). Electronics aside, the engine needs the basics to run-fuel and air. Make sure its getting fuel. It would be best if you could hook a diagnostic computer or pro-link to it to see if something else is going on. Without that, its a stab in the dark trying to figure out whats going on. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33301-mack-ch-613-will-not-start-after-a-major-crash-repair/#findComment-214406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shally Posted November 1, 2013 Author Share Posted November 1, 2013 i know its an issue for there is no diagnostic in the the region l am in and there is no fuel coming in???? is there another way to try to get fuel in?? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33301-mack-ch-613-will-not-start-after-a-major-crash-repair/#findComment-214418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
turckster Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Is the engine an e-tech (6 individal inj. pumps) or an e-7 engine? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33301-mack-ch-613-will-not-start-after-a-major-crash-repair/#findComment-214452 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shally Posted November 4, 2013 Author Share Posted November 4, 2013 E7 engine Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33301-mack-ch-613-will-not-start-after-a-major-crash-repair/#findComment-214972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
turckster Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Get a clean 5 gallon bucket and put some clean fuel in it. Run a #6 line from the fuel transfer inlet to the bucket of fuel. Use the hand primer pump to prime the fuel system. If not equipped w/hand primer pump use an external primer pump, plumbed into the outlet side of the transfer pump. Once the fuel system is primed, crank it up and see if it'll start. If the engine starts then the problem could be a bad connection from the fuel tank(s) to transfer pump. For example: a cracked fitting, broken tank suction tube, damaged fuel line, debris plugging line, etc. If the engine still does not start, make sure the rack is moving. Remove the plug on the front of the inj. pump-its about an 1 1/8 or 1 1/4, can't remember. Have someone turn the key on, you should be able to feel the rack move to the front. During cranking the rack should be at full fuel. If not, make sure you don't have a loose inj. pump connector. These are a few things that might help. Other things like battery connections and condition, ground connections, fuses and so forth need to be checked as well if all else fails. Not sure the extent of the damage from the wreck, any and all info you can give can help the diagnosis. Good luck. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33301-mack-ch-613-will-not-start-after-a-major-crash-repair/#findComment-215126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shally Posted November 5, 2013 Author Share Posted November 5, 2013 let me try thanks will let u know Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33301-mack-ch-613-will-not-start-after-a-major-crash-repair/#findComment-215151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shally Posted November 7, 2013 Author Share Posted November 7, 2013 where can i get a used diagnotic computer to take to that region????as truck still not starting Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33301-mack-ch-613-will-not-start-after-a-major-crash-repair/#findComment-215462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
turckster Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 I'm not really sure on that, the only thing I can think of is contacting the nearest Mack dealership for help. They might be able to point you the right direction.Good luck Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33301-mack-ch-613-will-not-start-after-a-major-crash-repair/#findComment-215918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shally Posted November 10, 2013 Author Share Posted November 10, 2013 no mack dealership in this area but JUST managed to find fault it was a broken wire to computer, took two weeks but started ,,, thanks for all helpBUT still looking for diagnostic computer.. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33301-mack-ch-613-will-not-start-after-a-major-crash-repair/#findComment-216029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
turckster Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Glad you got it started, persistence pays off. I would call Mack to see if there is some service rep in your area or if they can help with the purchase of the software and interface. Being you have a V-Mac ll system, you most likely need Vcads/Tech Tool software. Or check e-bay for a pro-link diagnostic scanner and Mack V-Mac ll cartridge. Good luck 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33301-mack-ch-613-will-not-start-after-a-major-crash-repair/#findComment-216116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shally Posted November 16, 2013 Author Share Posted November 16, 2013 thanks looking for computer ! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33301-mack-ch-613-will-not-start-after-a-major-crash-repair/#findComment-216944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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