Midliner question

[41chevy]

The Mack Midliner is based on what truck? Paul

[kscarbel]

The Mack Mid-Liner began as the U.S. market version of the Renault S-Series (utilizing the same cab, the J-Series was lighter, and the G-Series was heavier). And with the introduction of the M-Series, it merged some of the weight ratings of the S and G-Series.

(The Renault C-Series conventionals used the same cab)

The Freedom was based on the Renault Midlum.

[David]

So, It wasn't really a Mack.

[j hancock]

Not a lot of fun to locate parts for a Mid.

[kscarbel]

No, the Mid-Liner was produced by Renault. Mack and Renault were exploring synergies. Mack was entertaining the thought of re-entering the medium duty market segment and Renault had a great truck. Renault also wanted to utilize Mack's V-8 engine in Europe because they did not have a heavy hitter powertrain (and Europeans like V-8s).

[RFCDrum]

Which they did with the Magnum.

[mowerman]

thought it was a magarus,,,did know it was european..nice little truck....bob

[41chevy]

The Village of Mattituck is selling 2 MH road sander and 1 Midliner 6 wheel dump and 2 Midliner rack bodies. I was looking at the Midliner as a mulch hauler for residential use. Didnt ever really pay attention to them and was curious as to what the were based on. Kind of block out Renault after my Dalpheen incident.... Paul

[mowerman]

dont blame ya,,,i always liked to looks,,,thought they were perfect for city use...bob

[kscarbel]

thought it was a magarus,,,did know it was european..nice little truck....bob

Magirus was until 1975 the truck manufacturing unit of Klöckner Humboldt Deutz AG, known to this day for their diesel engines and also a partner with Mack Trucks and Garrett AiResearch in the development of gas turbine engines (http://www.bigmacktrucks.com/index.php?/topic/32014-the-gt-601-gas-turbine-powered-macks/).

These trucks had the "Club of Four" cab (officially known as the Euro Truck Development Group), which had been jointly developed by Saviem (merged into Renault), DAF, Magirus and Volvo. The Renault-produced Mack Mid-LIner featured this cab.

Iveco purchased Magirus from Klöckner Humboldt Deutz AG in 1975.

In 1977, Mack veteran Ray Reardon* left his position as vice president of international operations under Jack Curcio to form Iveco Trucks of North America in Blue Bell, Pennsylvania. He began importing Magirus trucks and sales started off well. He contacted other Mack dealers and they were thrilled with the idea of having a medium truck offering. It was common to see Magirus trucks on the road in the northeast.

But then Mack itself launched the Mid-Liner in 1980, an equally good if not better truck, and all the Mack dealers quickly migrated to that product.

Iveco Trucks of North America did live on thru 1990, selling Iveco's Z-Series low-cab-forward light truck.

*Mr. Raymond Reardon, a genuine Mack man and person of the highest caliber, passed away in 2006 and is sorely missed.

[mack4ever]

daf did use the club of four cab for maney years.now the renault cab is produced in france and is used by renault,daf and Volvo.there are some renault trucks rebadged as Volvo fe and sold in europe.the production of the lighter Volvo truck is now in Belgium but the cabs come fron france also the daf cabs come from france.

leon.

[kscarbel]

daf did use the club of four cab for maney years.now the renault cab is produced in france and is used by renault,daf and Volvo.there are some renault trucks rebadged as Volvo fe and sold in europe.the production of the lighter Volvo truck is now in Belgium but the cabs come fron france also the daf cabs come from france.

leon.

My friend, you are absolutely right. I stand corrected. I'd forgotten about the DAF F-Series.

Saviem used the cab on the J and HB-Series. After Saviem and Berliet merged into Renault in 1978, the cab was used on the S and G-Series. And again, it was used on the conventional cab C series, and Mack Mid-Liner range.

DAF used the cab for the F series, and Magirus offered the cab on trucks from 6 to 13 tons. Volvo initially used the cab in 1975 for the F4 and F6-Series, and later the F7.

When you speak of recent cabs, we're talking about the Renault Premium-based Midlum medium truck cab that is used today by Volvo Group on Renault and Volvo brand trucks, and sold to Paccar's DAF unit.

[mowerman]

Magirus was until 1975 the truck manufacturing unit of Klöckner Humboldt Deutz AG, known to this day for their diesel engines and also a partner with Mack Trucks and Garrett AiResearch in the development of gas turbine engines (http://www.bigmacktrucks.com/index.php?/topic/32014-the-gt-601-gas-turbine-powered-macks/).

These trucks had the "Club of Four" cab (officially known as the Euro Truck Development Group), which had been jointly developed by Saviem (merged into Renault), DAF, Magirus and Volvo. The Renault-produced Mack Mid-LIner featured this cab.

Iveco purchased Magirus from Klöckner Humboldt Deutz AG in 1975.

In 1977, Mack veteran Ray Reardon* left his position as vice president of international operations under Jack Curcio to form Iveco Trucks of North America in Blue Bell, Pennsylvania. He began importing Magirus trucks and sales started off well. He's contacted other Mack dealers and they were thrilled with the idea of having a medium truck offering. It was common to see Magirus trucks on the road in the northeast.

But then Mack itself launched the Mid-Liner in 1980, an equally good if not better truck, and all the Mack dealers quickly focused on that product.

Iveco Trucks of North America did live on thru 1990, selling Iveco's Z-Series of small low-cab-forward trucks.

*Mr. Raymond Reardon, a genuine Mack man and person of the highest caliber, passed away in 2006 and is sorely missed.

well alright man,,,thanks for the info,,,that was very interesting...bob