Greg Willocks Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Hi , new here looking for engine specks and answers for my E^ 350 2 valve fuel pump opened right up has been for 25 or so years.the truck went in for oil leaks , new cooler fitted, fuel pump removed to fix oil leak behind it, new puffer valve fitted( old one had been dislodged so I just bought a new one ).they took the truck for a drive and it stopped (as if the breaks come on, no lock up makes) they couldn`t restart it,floated back to work shop,pulled the heads off 2 burnt out 1 bent valve needs 3 new pistons , full in chassis engine rebuild now it looks and sounds like a steam train chuffing along billowing white smoke. any help and info would be greatly appreciatedthanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slpwlker Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Gonna go out on a limb and say they screwed the pooch on this. Or just one of those things. when it was time to go it was time to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Willocks Posted December 13, 2013 Author Share Posted December 13, 2013 that`s what the mechanic said it was time for the engine to let go, so why now after it has had a full in chassis rebuild including new liners ,pistons etc and fully reco heads all new valves it is running like a bag of sh*t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2stacksuperdog Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 something wasnt done right? 1 Quote Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Willocks Posted December 14, 2013 Author Share Posted December 14, 2013 update a forensic mechanical engineer went and saw the truck yesterday apparently its purring like a kitten, big cloud of black smoke when started then the normal amount of emissions , also a slight rattle on shut down. the forensic guy said he is going to put up a web page with pics etc for feed back thanks for your imput Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
br549 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 When he pulled the fuel pump, did they check the engine timming when they put it back on? White smoke and burnt pistons sound like timming, If it has the fiber tooth coupling on it and if you miss one tooth when putting it back on it will throw the timming out by 10 or 12 degrees. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turckster Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 If the engine was running ok before the repairs were performed, should have run ok after the repairs. Sounds like to me the injection pump was not timed correctly when they installed it. The drive on the engine has a roll pin between two teeth to make sure the pump drive fits one way. I have seen the roll pin move or fall out,. Miss by one tooth and the engine will not make it very far without a major failure. I've seen pistons melted into globs of goo, valve heads melted and holes in heads. This from an engine that was driven only a few miles after the inj. pump was timed incorrectly-removed only for oil leaks by the customer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackdog2 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Definite a timing issue or somebody ran it back wards . Quote Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearhead204 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 pump timing sounds like the problem except for the bent valve, did it drop a valve? Had a mechanical 400 that the pump shop got the initial timing wrong on (figured that out after 2nd. rebuild in one month ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Willocks Posted January 5, 2014 Author Share Posted January 5, 2014 I have seen a few photos and a couple of very short videos , they have admitted to not checking the timing after refitting fuel pump even after it stopped they just pulled it down. it looks like it is blowing more black smoke now than before and has a loud metal clanging sound on shut down, they also admitted to damaging the main clap by not fitting the main bearing correctly they filed the cap down and shimmed it .I have seen pics of three burnt out valves and three pistons no mention on a bent valve the heads and one piston are very clean and free of carbon 1 piston fair and the other worse nothing excessive we must remember this thing has been opened up for years and mainly idles around doing site work. I have not been told witch valves they are one burnt out valve is on the end of the head and the other two are side by side or is it all three on one head? the forensic mechanical engineer believes they have used a starting agent which has burnt out the valves and cleaned the pistons and heads I did read above were wrong timing can cause damage would this also clean the carbon as well this matter is going to court so any and all comments are welcome no matter how far fetched it may be thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Willocks Posted January 6, 2014 Author Share Posted January 6, 2014 after ten minutes of running it is blowing heavy white smoke out of the breather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearhead204 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 which breather air cleaner or crank case draft tube Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Willocks Posted January 8, 2014 Author Share Posted January 8, 2014 the white smoke is coming out of the crank case draft tube Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theakerstwo Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 You need to do some serious thinking and ask your self what am I doing letting this mechanic that I have now work on my truck. Another way of putting it is find some one else to work on it. 1 Quote glenn akers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Willocks Posted January 9, 2014 Author Share Posted January 9, 2014 I am asking myself why did I take it there in the first place.it should of been a simple job and they stuffed it, from what I have seen in video and heard I would say I am up for another engine rebuild if not another complete engine, they wont release the truck to me until I agree to pay all their bill no ? asked, take it as is and not take any further legal action against them as it is my intention to sue for loss of income. I would also like feed back on wether or not it would start with 3 burnt out valves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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