39 Baby Mack Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 I pulled down my headliner enough to get a peek and a picture of the lamp mount that is not focused very well. The round hole in the center is the AM/FM radio antenna. The holes for the lamp are 7 1/2 by 2 1/2 inches and as you can see the wire is hanging there. I called my Mack dealer and the part number is 22MO4234M2 but is NLA. He says it was not a Grote part but he could not remember who the vendor was. It was a long time ago, might have been TruckLite.Ron Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33900-the-introduction-of-the-mh-ultra-liner/page/2/#findComment-221882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcel67 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Here the interior light and map reading lights in my 93 MH E9. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33900-the-introduction-of-the-mh-ultra-liner/page/2/#findComment-221889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer52 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Here the interior light and map reading lights in my 93 MH E9. photo 2.JPGphoto 3.JPGIs your headliner vinyl or cloth? It looks like cloth in the pics. Quote Ken PRR Country and Charter member of the "Mack Pack" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33900-the-introduction-of-the-mh-ultra-liner/page/2/#findComment-221893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcel67 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Cloth.Is your headliner vinyl or cloth? It looks like cloth in the pics. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33900-the-introduction-of-the-mh-ultra-liner/page/2/#findComment-221902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHfred Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 643 should have been a Cummins V8265.Could you post with what the other models were powered? Thanks. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33900-the-introduction-of-the-mh-ultra-liner/page/2/#findComment-222039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdog Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 under the old system,643 was the V8 Cummins,but the new would be the Detroit.The 2nd number in the new system is what indicates engine manufacturer only,not which engine. 1 was Mack,3 Cummins 4 Detroit,5 Cat.That's why a MH613 could have a E6,E7 or E9. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33900-the-introduction-of-the-mh-ultra-liner/page/2/#findComment-222044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Could you post with what the other models were powered? Thanks.Here is the link for engine codes in the BMT wiki.http://www.bigmacktrucks.com/index.php?/tutorials/article/78-mack-engine-codes/As Mike indicated, Mack changed the system. Even with the old list in the wiki, an engine may be phased out so it may mean one engine and then 20 years later it means a different one.For example, a "33" seems to be a Cummins Super 250 and years later "33" is a Cummins BC 400.Not sure why a B833 I had years ago was powered by a Cummins 335? Never ran the number through the museum. Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33900-the-introduction-of-the-mh-ultra-liner/page/2/#findComment-222048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
39 Baby Mack Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 643 should have been a Cummins V8265.That would be about twenty years late for a V8-265 Cummins wouldn't it?I don't know if they were even still making V or VT-903's in the eighties?Ron 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33900-the-introduction-of-the-mh-ultra-liner/page/2/#findComment-222102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbigrig Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 I know an CL643 was a Detroit. I also know of 1 RW643 built in Oakville as a test truck. The 60 series was never available in the MH (as far as I know???) which made me think that it would be a 92 series Detroit. If MH's were ever built with 2 strokes?I've seen the MH653 with CATs up here. Very few Cummins powered MH's up here even though I know they exist. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33900-the-introduction-of-the-mh-ultra-liner/page/2/#findComment-222111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Mack Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 I pulled down my headliner enough to get a peek and a picture of the lamp mount that is not focused very well. The round hole in the center is the AM/FM radio antenna. The holes for the lamp are 7 1/2 by 2 1/2 inches and as you can see the wire is hanging there. I called my Mack dealer and the part number is 22MO4234M2 but is NLA. He says it was not a Grote part but he could not remember who the vendor was. MH Fred and Farmer52I pulled off my lamp today, checked it all over and there are no manufacturers stamps or imprints.... the green/black wire in the photo is the connection for the lamp..... if you need pics of the lamp send me a PM with an e-mail address.BC Mack Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33900-the-introduction-of-the-mh-ultra-liner/page/2/#findComment-222116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdog Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 I saw one MH at the local auction several years ago that had a 8V92 and a Allison auto.Super decked out,I want to say a '85 or '86 and wasn't over 5 years old at the time. There is a picture of this truck in one of the Mack picture books that are out,the Ron Adams one I think.Also saw a small group of 6V92 powered MH's on a Taylor & Martin auction flyer several years ago.Silvey Refrigerated Carriers from Omaha had a large fleet of MH's that were pretty much equally divided with E6-300 Mack,Formula 300 Cummins,and 3406 CAT's rated at 300hp.Taylor & Martin sold them out back in the later '80's . 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33900-the-introduction-of-the-mh-ultra-liner/page/2/#findComment-222127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenlunberg Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Lots of great article on this thread. Thanks for sharing! Quote Heavy Hauling Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33900-the-introduction-of-the-mh-ultra-liner/page/2/#findComment-222137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer52 Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 MH Fred and Farmer52I pulled off my lamp today, checked it all over and there are no manufacturers stamps or imprints.... the green/black wire in the photo is the connection for the lamp..... if you need pics of the lamp send me a PM with an e-mail address.BC MackBC,Thanks for checking the lamp. I sent a note to the Mack Museum to determine supplier. I checked Grote, Truck-lite, and Peterson catalogs and nothing even close. NLA from Mack so we will be looking in salvage yards. Quote Ken PRR Country and Charter member of the "Mack Pack" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33900-the-introduction-of-the-mh-ultra-liner/page/2/#findComment-222148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 643 should have been a Cummins V8265.An MH643 was a 6x4 with Detroit power.MH612/613 - Mack powerMH632/633 - Cummins power (popular with Ryder)MH642/643 - Detroit Diesel powerMH652/653 - Caterpillar power 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33900-the-introduction-of-the-mh-ultra-liner/page/2/#findComment-222151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
57 bcr Posted December 19, 2013 Author Share Posted December 19, 2013 Ken,I wonder if this light would have been used in the RV/conversion van world (not to mention sleeper manufacturers,other truck makers), also? Just a thought. Al p.s.By the way, there is an identical map light (to the one on page 20)on eBay right now.Item # 331083644805 Quote IF YOU BOUGHT IT, A TRUCK BROUGHT IT..AND WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH IT, A TRUCK WILL HAUL IT AWAY!!! Big John Trimble,WRVA Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33900-the-introduction-of-the-mh-ultra-liner/page/2/#findComment-222154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer52 Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Ken,I wonder if this light would have been used in the RV/conversion van world (not to mention sleeper manufacturers,other truck makers), also? Just a thought. Al p.s.By the way, there is an identical map light (to the one on page 20)on eBay right now.Item # 331083644805Thanks for the note. Yes, likely same part used on other vehicles/applications. Quote Ken PRR Country and Charter member of the "Mack Pack" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33900-the-introduction-of-the-mh-ultra-liner/page/2/#findComment-222166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer52 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Here the interior light and map reading lights in my 93 MH E9. photo 2.JPGphoto 3.JPGLamp manufactured by K-D Lamp Company. I tried searching for K-D but nothing. Did K-D get bought by Peterson or ? 1 Quote Ken PRR Country and Charter member of the "Mack Pack" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33900-the-introduction-of-the-mh-ultra-liner/page/2/#findComment-222778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottleHauler84 Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 (edited) On 12/23/2013 at 2:50 PM, farmer52 said: Lamp manufactured by K-D Lamp Company. I tried searching for K-D but nothing. Did K-D get bought by Peterson or ? Farmer, did you ever find anymore info on this dome/map light? I'm in the search right now for one but not having any luck. However, I'm being told that those same lights were also used in older Freightliner FLC model trucks. So I'm searching those also. Edited October 31 by BottleHauler84 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33900-the-introduction-of-the-mh-ultra-liner/page/2/#findComment-561122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 Farmer doesn’t get on here much anymore good luck I’ll will text him and see if he has any ideas… bob 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33900-the-introduction-of-the-mh-ultra-liner/page/2/#findComment-561125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 Are you the guy looking for the new headlights? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33900-the-introduction-of-the-mh-ultra-liner/page/2/#findComment-561126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottleHauler84 Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 (edited) 1 hour ago, mowerman said: Farmer doesn’t get on here much anymore good luck I’ll will text him and see if he has any ideas… bob Tell him in the research I've been doing, those dome lights were used in alot of Freightliner FLA cabovers 83-88ish. Also in FLC 86-88ish. So far I've found a few, but trying to get them bought. Hopefully if I do end up with a few I can help some of the fellow MH guys out. Edited October 31 by BottleHauler84 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33900-the-introduction-of-the-mh-ultra-liner/page/2/#findComment-561134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottleHauler84 Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 1 hour ago, mowerman said: Are you the guy looking for the new headlights? No sir, but I actually did just go thru this. I've been meaning to post up where I got all new headlight buckets. SLC lighting in Ohio actually still sells the exact 4x6 buckets we use. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33900-the-introduction-of-the-mh-ultra-liner/page/2/#findComment-561135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 Yeah, somebody else was looking for them. I scrolled back a page and found the guy. I don’t know if we ever found any. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33900-the-introduction-of-the-mh-ultra-liner/page/2/#findComment-561139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 16 minutes ago, BottleHauler84 said: Tell him in the research I've been doing, those dome lights were used in alot of Freightliner FLA cabovers 83-88ish. Also in FLC 86-88ish. So far I've found a few, but trying to get them bought. Hopefully if I do end up with a few I can help some of the fellow MH guys out. OK, thanks for that. I’ll let him know. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33900-the-introduction-of-the-mh-ultra-liner/page/2/#findComment-561140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 I think he wants to see if you have a picture of one. I believe he still needs one. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/33900-the-introduction-of-the-mh-ultra-liner/page/2/#findComment-561152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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