41chevy Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 My cousin lives in Haynes Fall N.Y. and just bid on the Fire Department N Model ex Flood light truck. Told me on the dash is a switch labeled Diesel Quick Start. Never heard of it. Ether shot?' 1 Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34014-diesel-quick-start/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatcity Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 yep-a lot of old time trucks had an ether canister mounted in the engine area. quick pull on the handle and VROOOOOOOm it might start 1 Quote Success is only a stones throw away.................................................................for a Palestinian Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34014-diesel-quick-start/#findComment-223086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ditchkus Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Paul I have it on my Freightliner COE with 6V-92. The Detroit would loose prime if it sat for a week or so. I put valves in lines to prevent it but that did not work. Anyway it is hooked up with power to give a metered shot of ether. It goes directly into intake pipe after air cleaner. They work well. Ether canisters for them are pricey though.N-Model with a Diesel great find. Joe D. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34014-diesel-quick-start/#findComment-223087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted December 25, 2013 Author Share Posted December 25, 2013 It's a non turbo with a 10 speed. Before Haynes Falls V.F.D. got it, it was used at the N.Y.C. Police Recreation Center in Tannersville as a 6 wheel dump. Cousin Chubby is sending me some pics when he figures how to get them off his phone. The flood lights and generator are stripped off it, he's going to use it as a service truck. Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34014-diesel-quick-start/#findComment-223098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_martell Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 I ran a case 3294 with an ether shot button on the dash.....big surprise, it didn't work. Quote Lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.... Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34014-diesel-quick-start/#findComment-223114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog13407 Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 most older John Deere's from the 70's and 80's had the either button on the dash. out '77 750 dozer has it along with out '79 644B loader at work Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34014-diesel-quick-start/#findComment-223119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaysm35a2 Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 I have a 2009 rebuilt Military truck with a new either start button. They sure still use em.Didn't the B models have a little capsule that got screwed in their air filters of either? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34014-diesel-quick-start/#findComment-223125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quickfarms Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 The modern systems do not have a button and use a temperature sensor. Both of my ex navy trucks have the system on them, they have never been used and do not have a bottle installed. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34014-diesel-quick-start/#findComment-224445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer52 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 The modern systems do not have a button and use a temperature sensor. Both of my ex navy trucks have the system on them, they have never been used and do not have a bottle installed.Ref. no bottle installed. Is the bottle/can mount exposed to the environment? If so, I recommend installing an empty ether bottle/can (or fabricate a cover) to keep the dirt and crap out of the system. I have done this on farm tractors (keep an empty bottle installed). Quote Ken PRR Country and Charter member of the "Mack Pack" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34014-diesel-quick-start/#findComment-224453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quickfarms Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Ref. no bottle installed. Is the bottle/can mount exposed to the environment? If so, I recommend installing an empty ether bottle/can (or fabricate a cover) to keep the dirt and crap out of the system. I have done this on farm tractors (keep an empty bottle installed). They have the original factory plug installed where the bottle should go. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34014-diesel-quick-start/#findComment-226183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ditchkus Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Paul did your cousin win the bid? If not what did the hammer fall at? Do you know specs? Thanks Joe D. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34014-diesel-quick-start/#findComment-226185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vision386 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 The first R-Model I drove for my Grandfather(1972 R-685) had an ether button on the right side of the dash,canister mounted on the firewall I can only remember using it once when it was really cold! when plugged in the old girl wasn't bad to start in winter........................Mark 1 Quote Mack Truck literate. Computer illiterate. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34014-diesel-quick-start/#findComment-226187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack mhe9 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Drove a transtar with it. 290 cummins if I remember correctly. Had the bottle on the side of the engine up side down. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34014-diesel-quick-start/#findComment-226332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
609albert Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 a diesel mechanic told me not to use ether, but instead use WD 40, it works Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34014-diesel-quick-start/#findComment-226360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer52 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 a diesel mechanic told me not to use ether, but instead use WD 40, it worksEther is the best cold starting aid. However, ether will strip any lubricant from the cylinder walls resulting in metal to metal contact. Also ether has a low combustion/ignition temperature. Too much ether will bend and break parts. I have seen bent rods, split rings, and holes in pistons from too much ether. Today most ether has a small amount of lubricant in the can. If you use ether, use it as a "last resort" and use it VERY SPARINGLY.WD40 or any spray penetrant is a good alternative. Just say NO to ether! Quote Ken PRR Country and Charter member of the "Mack Pack" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34014-diesel-quick-start/#findComment-226428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted January 13, 2014 Author Share Posted January 13, 2014 The system isn't functional and isn't needed any way. Just never saw it on a MACK. My B has an either cup on the air filer can,but only when Prefered had the mixer was it used. Saw a service tech blow the pan off a GMC V6 gasser with a ton of either and lacquer thinner dumped it it to make it run when it had diluted oil from a leaking fuel pump and gas fouled plugs. Sounded impressive when it all lit off. 1 Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34014-diesel-quick-start/#findComment-226493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Sounded impressive when it all lit off. May have lead to some soil pants too! 1 Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34014-diesel-quick-start/#findComment-226494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted January 13, 2014 Author Share Posted January 13, 2014 May have lead to some soil pants too!For most of the shop and customers. 1 Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34014-diesel-quick-start/#findComment-226496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog13407 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 silicone spray also is a little less harsh on engine parts to Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34014-diesel-quick-start/#findComment-226545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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