41chevy Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 This was proposed before obamammas run for reelection in 2011. Now it resurfaced again as Winter recess legislation. The latest is the reappearance of legislation by DOT and FMCSA requiring anyone who operates farming equipment and farming attachments to have a commercial driver’s license (CDL). This is touted as an increase in safety and an as a ''revenue enhancement" for the Feds' Paul The DOT proposed a rule change for all farm equipment will place significant regulatory pressure on small farms and family farms all across America – costing them thousands of dollars and possibly forcing many of them out of business. The Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA), part of the Department of Transportation (DOT), has ordered new standards that would require all farmers and all personnel on a farm to obtain an A or B CDL (Commercial Drivers License) in order to operate any farming equipment. The agency is going to accomplish this by reclassifying all farm vehicles and implements as Commercial Motor Vehicles (CMVs). The White House Rural Counsel and The Center For American Progress and the Teamsters are backing the proposed changesBy reclassifying all farm vehicles and implements as Commercial Vehicles, the Federal government will now be able to claim regulatory control over the estimated 800,000 farm workers and an estimated 450,000 farm implements in America and opening to door for EPA regulation and the unionization of them at the same time.The proposed change also means ANYONE driving a tractor or operating any piece of motorized or towed farming equipment would be forced to pass the same rigorous tests and fill out the same detailed forms and diaries required of semi-tractor trailer drivers. This reclassification would bury small farms and family farms in regulation and paperwork. Some of the additional paperwork and regulation required: Detailed logs would need to be kept by all drivers – hours worked, miles traveled, etc. Vehicles would have to display DOT numbers Drivers would need to pass a physical as well as a drug test – every two years. Allow enforcement checks by DOT and FMCSA officers including local enforcement personnel Farm use vehicles will now require Commercial insurance and registration tags Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34098-dot-war-on-farms-reappears/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gearhead204 Posted January 2, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2014 as if global gap isn't bad enough, now they want to shovel more shit down my neck. how flipin hungry must we make people to get them to get their heads pulled out! once you cant buy any thing produced by a family farm you will never know what you are eating!!!!!!!!!! 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34098-dot-war-on-farms-reappears/#findComment-224431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ditchkus Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 It never ends. Joe D. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34098-dot-war-on-farms-reappears/#findComment-224433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Beltway BS... Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34098-dot-war-on-farms-reappears/#findComment-224434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted January 2, 2014 Author Share Posted January 2, 2014 Make them cold, hungry and jobless and most will do what ever the powers that be want. Not all but most. All we have is 6 acres of sour farm land after Sandy, My signs say No Trespassing. I don't care if you are the local drunk or the president himself you will not enter my land uninvited to tell me how to operate. Paul 2 Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34098-dot-war-on-farms-reappears/#findComment-224436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearhead204 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I cant believe that my seasonal help must live in acceptable housing but I don't have too!! I use government labor housing that's two years old built for farm labor, now home land security and boarder patrol hang out there and pressure the workers, theirs no way that I can afford to supply acceptable housing for 30-45 workers for 20 days worth of work !! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34098-dot-war-on-farms-reappears/#findComment-224437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaysm35a2 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 When is someone or a group of people going to say enough is enough , and really do something about it. You guys don't need anymore crap tossed your way from D.C. , drives me nuts Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34098-dot-war-on-farms-reappears/#findComment-224440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyRebel Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Farm lobby beat that back once already...pretty sure they'll defeat it again. The reps from agricultural districts, and the senators from rural states aren't going to just sit back and let this crap pass. Farmers vote, and the politicians know it. That is why they have so many exemptions already carved out for themselves. Quote When approaching a 4-way stop, the vehicle with the biggest tires has the right of way! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34098-dot-war-on-farms-reappears/#findComment-224441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rsb502 Posted January 2, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2014 Farm lobby beat that back once already...pretty sure they'll defeat it again. The reps from agricultural districts, and the senators from rural states aren't going to just sit back and let this crap pass. Farmers vote, and the politicians know it. That is why they have so many exemptions already carved out for themselves.I don't know about that every jack leg in Washington has sat back and let stupid shit pass in the last 5-10 years. I don't trust em any farther than I can throw em, none of em republican,democrat don't mean shit to me they're all full of shit. 8 Quote "Any Society that would give up a little LIBERTY to gain a little SECURITY will Deserve Neither and LOSE BOTH" -Benjamin Franklin"If your gonna be STUPID, you gotta be TOUGH" "You cant always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you get what you need" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34098-dot-war-on-farms-reappears/#findComment-224448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KECorbin22 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Why do the power to be continue to bring in more B-S laws that only hurt working people ?, because we are the only one's working and paying their salaries. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34098-dot-war-on-farms-reappears/#findComment-224450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer52 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Again, a bunch of BS from our government! The more BS regs they pass/enact, the more things move overseas. The government will be (maybe is already) the downfall of this country. As FWD stated in another thread "hold on to your asses"! 1 Quote Ken PRR Country and Charter member of the "Mack Pack" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34098-dot-war-on-farms-reappears/#findComment-224452 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted January 2, 2014 Author Share Posted January 2, 2014 Farm lobby beat that back once already...pretty sure they'll defeat it again. The reps from agricultural districts, and the senators from rural states aren't going to just sit back and let this crap pass. Farmers vote, and the politicians know it. That is why they have so many exemptions already carved out for themselves.If and it's a big if, they push it through under the EPA first they do not need a vote on it. That seems to be how it's going to be this time. Reid is also holding the farm subsidies as ransom for the DOT /FMCSA regs to pass and since food production/agriculture all fall under the White House Rural Counsel and DHS/FEMA guess who wins? Not us.As for the powers that be? No idea of the world out side of the Beltway. Same out look as the "Gimmie" people, all they worry about it the cash flow to them. Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34098-dot-war-on-farms-reappears/#findComment-224501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKS Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I come from a family of farmers, one thing I know you do not step onto a farmers premises/land and tell them what to do, how to do it, how long to work or anything else, Period. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34098-dot-war-on-farms-reappears/#findComment-224546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearhead204 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I come from a family of farmers, one thing I know you do not step onto a farmers premises/land and tell them what to do, how to do it, how long to work or anything else, Period. [ well that used to be the way it worked. now they hold our perishable crops hostage if we don't play their game. /quote] Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34098-dot-war-on-farms-reappears/#findComment-224576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post vision386 Posted January 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2014 Damn ridiculous! I also grew up on a farm,and let me tell you,when it was peach shipping season we sometimes worked 24 hours a day! peaches have a real limited shelf life,and when they gotta go they gotta go! every delay was money out of our pockets! same with apples,just not as tight a schedule to keep. Many is the day I would load a truck BEFORE going to school,come home,load another one,deliver it,come home and load ANOTHER one before bedtime,do the same thing 6 sometimes 7 days a week! My Grand dad was not real big on being told what to do by anyone,especially the govvmint! hard ass work with little to no reward as it is (farming) but maybe the "gimmies" will think twice when there is no more food! oh,nevermind,we'll just BUY it from somewhere else I guess? (oh I forgot,theres no more money either) Big Daddy Obama Bin Laden sure has a plan don't he?.........................running the country into the ground!..........................Mark 4 Quote Mack Truck literate. Computer illiterate. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34098-dot-war-on-farms-reappears/#findComment-224578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mack Doctor Jr. Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Damn ridiculous! I also grew up on a farm,and let me tell you,when it was peach shipping season we sometimes worked 24 hours a day! peaches have a real limited shelf life,and when they gotta go they gotta go! every delay was money out of our pockets! same with apples,just not as tight a schedule to keep. Many is the day I would load a truck BEFORE going to school,come home,load another one,deliver it,come home and load ANOTHER one before bedtime,do the same thing 6 sometimes 7 days a week! My Grand dad was not real big on being told what to do by anyone,especially the govvmint! hard ass work with little to no reward as it is (farming) but maybe the "gimmies" will think twice when there is no more food! oh,nevermind,we'll just BUY it from somewhere else I guess? (oh I forgot,theres no more money either) Big Daddy Obama Bin Laden sure has a plan don't he?.........................running the country into the ground!..........................MarkWell said mark! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34098-dot-war-on-farms-reappears/#findComment-224600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post David Posted January 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2014 A DEA officer stops at a ranch in Wyoming, and talks with an old rancher. He tells the rancher, "I need to inspect your ranch for illegally grown drugs."The old rancher says, "Okay, but do not go in that field over there" as he points out the location.The DEA officer verbally explodes saying, "Mister, I have the authority of the Federal Government with me. Reaching into his rear pants pocket, he removes his badge and proudly displays it to the farmer. See this badge? This badge means I am allowed to go wherever I wish on any land. No questions asked or answers given. Have I made myself clear? Do you understand?"The old rancher nods politely, apologizes, and goes about his chores.A short time later, the old rancher hears loud screams and sees the DEA officer running for his life, chased close behind by the rancher's prize bull. With every step the bull is gaining ground on the officer, and it seems likely that he'll get horned before he reaches safety. The officer is clearly terrified.The old rancher throws down his tools, runs to the fence and yells at the top of his lungs. "Your badge! Show him your badge!" 5 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34098-dot-war-on-farms-reappears/#findComment-224621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted January 3, 2014 Author Share Posted January 3, 2014 No coal, soon no oil or natural gas, no Hydroelectric, no incandescent light bulbs. We have ACA mandating our health and God knows what else is hidden in it BUT we have free phones, birth control and 30 million illegals soon to be welcomed to Obammarika. 1 Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34098-dot-war-on-farms-reappears/#findComment-224622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ditchkus Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 My Father used to say to me years ago. If this keeps up we will all be peddling bicycles.Its like pi$$ing up a rainpipe. Joe D. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34098-dot-war-on-farms-reappears/#findComment-224625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FayettesFinest Posted January 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2014 I really don't understand this. What's the difference if someone drives a triaxle on-site for a dirt job (never touching the road) or someone driving a tractor? I don't see how it can possibly be regulated like that. DOT insurance? So, if my tractor slides down the hill and takes out my fence, I have to pay for the damage to the tractor and fence along with the insurance? This is totally screwed up. Just another government SNAFU coming down on the farms. Washington needs cleaned out. And for the NSA "operative" (don't want to be politically incorrect and offend someone, now) who is "monitoring" this forum, or "monitoring" my every move, I hope you choke.Canada looks better every day. 5 Quote Being in the process of getting your CDL's is like sitting on death row... Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34098-dot-war-on-farms-reappears/#findComment-224631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyRebel Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Hell, new NYC mayor wants to do away with horse drawn carriages... Quote When approaching a 4-way stop, the vehicle with the biggest tires has the right of way! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34098-dot-war-on-farms-reappears/#findComment-224633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ditchkus Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 The Mayor of NY most likely saw the Seinfield Episode where Kramer was a horse and buggy driver and he Kramer fed the horse beans or spaghetti then the horse kept farting.Air polution. Joe D. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34098-dot-war-on-farms-reappears/#findComment-224636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FayettesFinest Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Personally, I wouldn't mind doing away with the mayor of NYC, but that's just me... 1 Quote Being in the process of getting your CDL's is like sitting on death row... Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34098-dot-war-on-farms-reappears/#findComment-224637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Now THAT would be getting rid of air pollution. 1 Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34098-dot-war-on-farms-reappears/#findComment-224662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted January 3, 2014 Author Share Posted January 3, 2014 Hell, new NYC mayor wants to do away with horse drawn carriages...No horse drawn carriages, no bicycle messengers, hide tobacco from view so kids don't see it, no tanning salons and no air brush make up salons. NYC is sending out confiscation notices for weapons that hold 5 or more rounds (NY law says up to 5 is legal, NYC say it isn't).Hey NSA I lost a photo file, Think can you send me a copy? Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34098-dot-war-on-farms-reappears/#findComment-224709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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