liquidx203 Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Got a new 2014 truck in at work the other day tried hooking up to it with the computer and it has a totally different connection port. Now I know a few years ago i heard that the heavy duty world was going to go to an "OBD Heavy Duty" plug. Has that day come? Can anyone else shed some light on these new communications ports. Thanks for the info. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34125-2014-new-j1939-plug/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
staxx Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Yup OBD2 have to take it to the dealership or spend $4500 in software to read. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34125-2014-new-j1939-plug/#findComment-225037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
turckster Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Its my understanding that the customer can hook up a hand held scanner to read obd only faults. Its a universal thing-volvo, mack, international, freightliner and etc. Now if you want to read manufacturer specific codes then you would have to purchase said software. Its set up that way so that the customer/owner can read and repair obd faults without relying on the dealer. I could be wrong though so don't hold me to this. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34125-2014-new-j1939-plug/#findComment-225049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
staxx Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 This is obd2 heavy duty , have not seen a aftermarket scan tool for this yet. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34125-2014-new-j1939-plug/#findComment-225060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Challenger Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 I dont think Volvo/Mack has figured out the software yet, so I wouldnt think an aftermarket tool would work. Constant updates, slooooowwwwwwwwww speed, programming problems. I think they jumped the gun on the OBD2. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34125-2014-new-j1939-plug/#findComment-225104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
staxx Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I heard there is a possibility of it going back to a techtool version, time will tell . But yes I do not enjoy using techtool II. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34125-2014-new-j1939-plug/#findComment-225179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Challenger Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 I heard there is a possibility of it going back to a techtool version, time will tell . But yes I do not enjoy using techtool II.That sounds good to me. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34125-2014-new-j1939-plug/#findComment-225304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
staxx Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Also suppose to go back to the 9 pin connector . Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34125-2014-new-j1939-plug/#findComment-225330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
turckster Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 They need to do something with the TT2. As quirky as TT1 is, at least it works. TT2 feel like an unfinished program that was pushed out too soon full of bugs. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34125-2014-new-j1939-plug/#findComment-225375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackpro Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Oh the joys of Tech Tool 2. Every time they fix one issue with it they end up creating 2 new problems. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34125-2014-new-j1939-plug/#findComment-225760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
64C85 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 The OBD II connector is here to stay, so you might as well get use to it. There is an adaptor kit so that you can still use the communication box that is used for TT 1. Also any OBD II scanner that is available on the market will work on the none propritary faults. I use a EKM 327 wireless interface connector and the (FREE) Torque OBD check smart phone app to read and clear fault codes. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34125-2014-new-j1939-plug/#findComment-225761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Challenger Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 What's considered a none proprietary fault? I would think most Mid 128 and 233 codes would fall under proprietary faults. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34125-2014-new-j1939-plug/#findComment-225884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
64C85 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Non proprietary would be a coolant temp sensor fault vs say a communication fault between EECU's (Mack specifically designed fault). Same is true for MID 233, 144 etc. However, 2014 uses ISO communications for engine, automated transmission, and aftertreatment ECU's...BUT the rest of the truck is still using 1939 & 1587 communications. There is no more MID128, 233 etc. in 2014 and moving forward. This is really why Tech Tool II stinks. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34125-2014-new-j1939-plug/#findComment-225891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
staxx Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 I heard the it was going back to 9 pin from someone who is writing the new software for mack/Volvo system, have no idea if it is true but said the tech tool2 is suppose to be more like the original tech tool . Also JPRO makes a aftermarket to that will read clear codes and do regens very nice setup for obd2 systems all the way back to v-mac 1 in one system. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34125-2014-new-j1939-plug/#findComment-225930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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