Brandt Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 This is a stupid question, but when did Mack start using computers on their engines?? Did they go complete computer control or did they phase it in with a fuel computer but not a full blown ECM?? The next question is: If my truck does not have ANY computer on it, can I weld on it w/o disconnecting the batteries??I have a '91 EM7 300 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34274-computer-or-ecm/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer52 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 My MH is a 1992 with EM7 300 with VMAC I. If I remember correctly, the VMAC I was just an electronic governor and smoke control. I am sure there are others on BMT that know the complete story. Quote Ken PRR Country and Charter member of the "Mack Pack" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34274-computer-or-ecm/#findComment-227189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeyrd Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 If you weld on it you could still fry stuff like the alternator. Best to disconnect the batteries. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34274-computer-or-ecm/#findComment-227204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 I agree on the batteries. Just takes a couple of minutes to disconnect. I also try to put the ground clamp for welding as close as possible to what is being welded. Maybe just an old wives tale? Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34274-computer-or-ecm/#findComment-227208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_martell Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 I've always disconnected the batteries to weld, and was also taught early on to ground close to where your welding....works good now, as the ground clamp on the welder in the shop is about 4'long......needed some cable to make boosters lol Quote Lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.... Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34274-computer-or-ecm/#findComment-227261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandt Posted January 18, 2014 Author Share Posted January 18, 2014 OK, I'll disconnect before welding.Still not sure on weather I have an ECM or not. I do have an electronic fuel pedal but don't know if it is just electronic for fuel or the full monty. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34274-computer-or-ecm/#findComment-227367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer52 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 OK, I'll disconnect before welding.Still not sure on weather I have an ECM or not. I do have an electronic fuel pedal but don't know if it is just electronic for fuel or the full monty.If you have an "electronic" fuel pedal you have a VMAC I. Does your truck have electronic cruise control? In my MH, the computer/ECM is in the cab under the dash on the passenger side. Quote Ken PRR Country and Charter member of the "Mack Pack" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34274-computer-or-ecm/#findComment-227390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macktech689 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 VMAC 1 has 2 modules, the VECU monitors vehicle functions and the FIC controls fuel injection. Both " should" both disconnected before any welding operations, but removing the battery grounds is usually sufficient. Keep in mind control modules and programming for older trucks is very expensive. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34274-computer-or-ecm/#findComment-227474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41180 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 i think 91 was the first year of vmac 1 ? but you could get mechanical e7 350 right up until 98 emmisions i believe. we had a 93 superliner with a vmac 1 e7 400 . ive seen 97 rd' s with mechanical e7 350. the e9 's stayed mechanical right up until the end in 99. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34274-computer-or-ecm/#findComment-227624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbigrig Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 V-Mac I 1990-late1994 E7 up to 400hpV-Mac II 1994-late1997 E7 up to 454hpV-Mac III 1997-late2002 E-Tech up to 487hpV-Mac IIII 2002-2007 ASET up to 487hpI think these are pretty close but can differ on build date and model year etc. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34274-computer-or-ecm/#findComment-227863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractor Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 on a v-maciii e7-400 can you turn up power Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34274-computer-or-ecm/#findComment-496529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 1 hour ago, tractor said: on a v-maciii e7-400 can you turn up power yes how ever physical changes will likley be needed making it cost prohibitive ! Programing ,Cam Key change, Turbo ,just o name of a few! 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34274-computer-or-ecm/#findComment-496534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractor Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 truck had power lost it somebody took cooling plate lines off compter just wondering if could check see if setting change Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34274-computer-or-ecm/#findComment-496536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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