Popular Post kscarbel2 Posted January 28, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 28, 2014 Here is a very interesting piece on the position of Mack Trucks in 1986. The RWI Super-Liner II had been introduced the previous year. Assembled on the state-of-the-art MH Ultra-Liner chassis, the new RWI-600 Super-Liner is a sales success. In addition, a severe service RWI-700 is available for logging, heavy hauling and other demanding market segments. The R-model remains the country's best selling conventional truck. In volume production from 1984, the Mack Ultra-Liner with its corrosion-proof Maxi-Glas cab has claimed 10 percent of the COE market. A composite structural cage of galvanized steel, aluminum and high-strength fiberglass yields unsurpassed cab integrity and the ultimate in driver protection. With ratings up to 500 horsepower, Mack's E9 V-8 has become a legend around the globe. Mack and Renault are doing an impressive job of working together where synergies are realistically possible. The Mack Mid-Liner medium truck is a sales success as the number one selling medium-duty cabover in America. And, the conventional cab Mid-Liner "CS" series has now joined the "MS" cabover range. Mack is test-marketing a Mack-powered version of the Renault FR-1 motorcoach in the US market (http://www.bigmacktrucks.com/index.php?/topic/34314-the-mack-fr-1-motorcoach/), and Mack Australia is selling the Renault PR100 municipal transit bus down under to the sum of 650 units (http://www.bigmacktrucks.com/index.php?/topic/34401-mack-australia-and-the-mack-renault-pr-series-city-bus/). And where can you find a more impressive picture? Here are three of the five most stunning Mack trucks ever built - the RWI Super-Liner II, the MH Ultra-Liner and the U.S. market RS Value-Liner (the other two being the Australian market V8-powered Value-Liner and Trident). http://www.bigmacktrucks.com/index.php?/topic/30016-mack-australia-the-other-value-liner/ http://www.bigmacktrucks.com/index.php?/topic/30035-mack-australia-trident-a-well-kept-secret/ . 8 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34441-mack-trucks-the-difference-behind-the-name/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fullfuel01 Posted January 28, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 28, 2014 Almost enough to get a hard on. 5 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34441-mack-trucks-the-difference-behind-the-name/#findComment-229172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8Bulldog Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 10-4 on that Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34441-mack-trucks-the-difference-behind-the-name/#findComment-229179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
yahir Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Just about enough to get a hard on. Quote Truck driving CDL schools Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34441-mack-trucks-the-difference-behind-the-name/#findComment-229646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vision386 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Diggin' that R-Model! anyone notice its pulling a Matlack tanker? they were a BIG user of Macks,they had a satellite terminal near me in Swedesboro,NJ right off Route 322,there is a Kenworth dealership there now.................................Mark Quote Mack Truck literate. Computer illiterate. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34441-mack-trucks-the-difference-behind-the-name/#findComment-229726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted February 1, 2014 Author Share Posted February 1, 2014 Diggin' that R-Model! anyone notice its pulling a Matlack tanker? they were a BIG user of Macks,they had a satellite terminal near me in Swedesboro,NJ right off Route 322,there is a Kenworth dealership there now.................................MarkMatlack, like Chemical Leaman, Air Products and Overnite, was a major Mack customer.But that's no R-model, that's an RS Value-Liner, an extremely different truck from the R and my personal favorite. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34441-mack-trucks-the-difference-behind-the-name/#findComment-229729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bts-4120 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 yep most people still don't belive they made R models with button tuck interior or carpet floors. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34441-mack-trucks-the-difference-behind-the-name/#findComment-229780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 yep most people still don't belive they made R models with button tuck interior or carpet floors.You're speaking of the Hayward-assembled Mack Western interior in the RWL/RWS and RL/RS. That was among the highest trim levels ever available and extremely plush, rivaling only the level 4 interior in the (Macungie production) MH Ultra-Liner and RWI Super-Liner. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34441-mack-trucks-the-difference-behind-the-name/#findComment-229796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james j neiweem Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 KS those value liners were my favorite also Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34441-mack-trucks-the-difference-behind-the-name/#findComment-229818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackey58 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Truck transport in at st Louis had tons of macks and so did Eco labs in joliet Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34441-mack-trucks-the-difference-behind-the-name/#findComment-229939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vision386 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 KS,please feel free to correct me,but I think I remember National Freight Inc. Vineland,NJ made one of the largest single orders of F-Models? (at the time 1974-75?) I forget how many, but I believe they were sold through my local Mack dealer (Horner Mack sales) also of Vineland, NJ.....................................Mark Quote Mack Truck literate. Computer illiterate. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34441-mack-trucks-the-difference-behind-the-name/#findComment-229960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james j neiweem Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 :twothumbsup:You are right National had a ton of those F models both both 80 and 50 inch BBC. I don't think they have had Mack since. Maybe some cruiseliners. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34441-mack-trucks-the-difference-behind-the-name/#findComment-230032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifth wheel Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 You're speaking of the Hayward-assembled Mack Western interior in the RWL/RWS and RL/RS. That was among the highest trim levels ever available and extremely plush, rivaling only the level 4 interior in the (Macungie production) MH Ultra-Liner and RWI Super-Liner.From a 1978 RWS brochure. FW 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34441-mack-trucks-the-difference-behind-the-name/#findComment-230046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanbuddy Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 On 2/1/2014 at 8:01 AM, kscarbel2 said: Matlack, like Chemical Leaman, Air Products and Overnite, was a major Mack customer. But that's no R-model, that's an RS Value-Liner, an extremely different truck from the R and my personal favorite. What is the difference between the R model and the RS Value-Liner? They look the same to me. Quote 79 U237 5 sp Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34441-mack-trucks-the-difference-behind-the-name/#findComment-230260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2stacksuperdog Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 On 2/3/2014 at 9:38 PM, tanbuddy said: What is the difference between the R model and the RS Value-Liner? They look the same to me. A lot. Stuff is in different spots and the RS was lighter and fancier. Quote Matt Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34441-mack-trucks-the-difference-behind-the-name/#findComment-230349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 What is the difference between the R and the Value-Liner (RS)? They look the same to me.The R and RS/RL both used variations of Mack's type CA49 cab, but even then, most of the part numbers of a "groomed" cab were completely different as the cabs shared little in trim.The entire chassis, cab mounting and hood, for example, were completely different. The hood was shorter. The front fenders were attached to the frame rather than as an integral part of the hood. Altogether, very impressive engineering.The Mack "Value-Liner", life just doesn't get much better than that.Worthy of mention, the part numbers used by the Mack subsidiary Mack Western in Hayward California were unique to Mack's west coast models. Even after west coast production was relocated to Macungie, the Mack Western 5-digit part numbering system continued to be used for the Cruise-Liner, Super-Liner and Value-Liner. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34441-mack-trucks-the-difference-behind-the-name/#findComment-230354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullhusk Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 What has become of the Mack Hayward CA plant??BULLHUSK Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34441-mack-trucks-the-difference-behind-the-name/#findComment-230452 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 What has become of the Mack Hayward CA plant??BULLHUSKOnce located at 21301 Cloud Way, just west of Corsair Blvd, it is now used by Myers Container (http://www.myerscontainer.com/contact-us.aspx).Mack Street and Bulldog Way remain as reminders.https://maps.google....ved=0CAgQ_AUoAgFYI: The Gillig municipal transit bus plant is in Hayward, south of the former Mack location at 25800 Clawiter Road (http://www.gillig.com/). Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34441-mack-trucks-the-difference-behind-the-name/#findComment-230509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Dash Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 The original post and article are sad reminders of what Mack the corporation and Mack trucks used to be.Almost enough to get a hard on.I was already lighting a cigarette at the mention of the E9. 1 Quote Jim Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34441-mack-trucks-the-difference-behind-the-name/#findComment-230585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james j neiweem Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 How are the Value-Liner fenders attached to the frame? It looks like the fenders and hood are one piece. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34441-mack-trucks-the-difference-behind-the-name/#findComment-230667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Dash Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 On 2/6/2014 at 0:39 AM, james j neiweem said: How are the Value-Liner fenders attached to the frame? It looks like the fenders and hood are one piece. I think he's referring to the back part of the fenders. 1 Quote Jim Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34441-mack-trucks-the-difference-behind-the-name/#findComment-230692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickykarenpr Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 nice mack generations Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34441-mack-trucks-the-difference-behind-the-name/#findComment-234045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodly Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 On 2/2/2014 at 10:37 PM, fifth wheel said: From a 1978 RWS brochure. FW Sorry to resurrect an old thread but I didn't realize you could ever get a Superliner with Mack beige interior (like a regular R model) as this color swatch seems to indicate. Has anyone ever seen an RW with beige interior? If so, was that a Hayward-only option? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34441-mack-trucks-the-difference-behind-the-name/#findComment-348678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted October 14, 2016 Author Share Posted October 14, 2016 Why are you sorry? The discussion never ends. Yes, the beige color option was only on Hayward-produced models. Colamco was the supplier of our interior trim at that time. We later switched to Belmor (http://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34169-mack-cabs/#comment-225546). Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34441-mack-trucks-the-difference-behind-the-name/#findComment-348682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodly Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Thanks, kscarbel2. Does anyone have a pic of a Superliner 1 with beige interior like a regular R model? I always kinda thought that was the sharpest color for a Mack interior, even though it was used in all their more pedestrian models. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34441-mack-trucks-the-difference-behind-the-name/#findComment-348970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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