farmer52 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I was rereading the book and noticed the back cover photo and caption. What is wrong with this picture?Mack Hagerstown 35yr Back Cover.pdf Quote Ken PRR Country and Charter member of the "Mack Pack" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34537-35-years-at-mack-hagerstown-book-back-cover/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
39 Baby Mack Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Ken,Must be the earliest "MH" prototype ever built or latest 75th anniversary celebration ever held!Must mean 85th!Ron 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34537-35-years-at-mack-hagerstown-book-back-cover/#findComment-230523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer52 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 Ken,Must be the earliest "MH" prototype ever built or latest 75th anniversary celebration ever held!Must mean 85th!Ron BTW, here is the front cover....see anything interesting? Quote Ken PRR Country and Charter member of the "Mack Pack" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34537-35-years-at-mack-hagerstown-book-back-cover/#findComment-230527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
39 Baby Mack Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 The "M" model dump truck in Bicentennial colors? Ron Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34537-35-years-at-mack-hagerstown-book-back-cover/#findComment-230531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer52 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 The "M" model dump truck in Bicentennial colors? RonYep! And the water tower painted in Bicentennial colors. Quote Ken PRR Country and Charter member of the "Mack Pack" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34537-35-years-at-mack-hagerstown-book-back-cover/#findComment-230534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleclutchinweasel Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Yep! And the water tower painted in Bicentennial colors.Didn't the "bicentennial" colors actually appear in 1970 as the "70th anniversary" colors??? Quote "Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines." Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34537-35-years-at-mack-hagerstown-book-back-cover/#findComment-230535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer52 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 Didn't the "bicentennial" colors actually appear in 1970 as the "70th anniversary" colors???I think you are correct. The Mack red/white/blue trucks were advertised years before the US Bicentennial (1976). Quote Ken PRR Country and Charter member of the "Mack Pack" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34537-35-years-at-mack-hagerstown-book-back-cover/#findComment-230539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleclutchinweasel Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I think you are correct. The Mack red/white/blue trucks were advertised years before the US Bicentennial (1976).Are we giving away age clues here? Quote "Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines." Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34537-35-years-at-mack-hagerstown-book-back-cover/#findComment-230543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer52 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 1972 Quote Ken PRR Country and Charter member of the "Mack Pack" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34537-35-years-at-mack-hagerstown-book-back-cover/#findComment-230547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb502 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 seems someone may have gotten their covers reversed, info anyway Quote "Any Society that would give up a little LIBERTY to gain a little SECURITY will Deserve Neither and LOSE BOTH" -Benjamin Franklin"If your gonna be STUPID, you gotta be TOUGH" "You cant always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you get what you need" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34537-35-years-at-mack-hagerstown-book-back-cover/#findComment-230549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Dash Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 The road into the plant was renamed "Volvo Way".Sickening....... 1 Quote Jim Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34537-35-years-at-mack-hagerstown-book-back-cover/#findComment-230563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 The day cab version of the cutting edge Mack Ultra-Liner. What a looker. That truck doesn't look the least bit dated.The Ultra-Liner was extremely advanced in engineering, and arguably the safest COE cab design still to this day.The Ultra-Liner could easily have been developed forward, to remain a cutting edge product in the global COE market.When you consider the American COEs still produced today (for global markets), the Freightliner Argosy 2, Kenworth K200 and International 9800i, an updated Ultra-Liner or (more likely at this point) a totally evolved Ultra-Liner II could/would be a far superior truck to both its American competitors and European examples like Volvo FH. Remember, America was producing successful COEs while the European brands were still working out the bugs in theirs. Our drivetrains, for example, were FAR superior. And that's one reason why Mack had such a strong presence in Europe, the Middle East, Africa and Western Asia. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34537-35-years-at-mack-hagerstown-book-back-cover/#findComment-230566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 The road into the plant was renamed "Volvo Way".Sickening.......Volvo Group is very adamant about their employees doing things the "Volvo way". It has been the root cause for many Mack veterans to depart. A massive knowledge drain. A few frustrated ones hung on, with retirement nearing. Quite a few were asked for their resignations, each after having the audacity to point out to Swedish management that their "Volvo way" was inferior to the pedigreed way under the former Mack Trucks. Now, 30-year veterans are a rarity, and both parts and service are frustrating for both customer and distributor alike (Dealing with Volvo on warranty repairs, a slow process indeed). Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34537-35-years-at-mack-hagerstown-book-back-cover/#findComment-230574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Green Dash Posted February 5, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 5, 2014 It sounds as if they had no idea they were getting involved in something that was so much more to it's employees and customers than just a truck manufacturer. 4 Quote Jim Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34537-35-years-at-mack-hagerstown-book-back-cover/#findComment-230597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 BTW, here is the front cover....see anything interesting?Aside from the 45 star flag?? Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34537-35-years-at-mack-hagerstown-book-back-cover/#findComment-230602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
57 bcr Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I've got to dig up that copy of the BULLDOG from the early '70's that showed a water tower at the old plant (5C-?) in Allentown. There is a story in there about a guy and his WIFE painting the tower in a RED/WHITE/BLUE theme. I want to say they even volunteered to do the job! Stay tuned folks,more to follow............ Quote IF YOU BOUGHT IT, A TRUCK BROUGHT IT..AND WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH IT, A TRUCK WILL HAUL IT AWAY!!! Big John Trimble,WRVA Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34537-35-years-at-mack-hagerstown-book-back-cover/#findComment-230604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Didn't the "bicentennial" colors actually appear in 1970 as the "70th anniversary" colors???1970 or 71 as "ALL AMERICAN MACK". Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34537-35-years-at-mack-hagerstown-book-back-cover/#findComment-230695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleclutchinweasel Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 1970 or 71 as "ALL AMERICAN MACK".I had thought it coincided with the 70th anniversary...1970. But, I wasn't exactly sure.From what everyone has said, sounds pretty close. I know for a fact I have seen pictures of steel dash R's in that paint scheme. Quote "Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines." Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34537-35-years-at-mack-hagerstown-book-back-cover/#findComment-230700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleclutchinweasel Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 A few more pics from one book.Old-style dashes (up to '72-ish) in the r/w/b scheme.Isn't that a red/white/blue M-model (again) in the background??? Quote "Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines." Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34537-35-years-at-mack-hagerstown-book-back-cover/#findComment-230708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vision386 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 It's interesting to me,that they would choose the "modern" logo over the "real" logo for the cover,especially on a book about Mack's history?.......................................Mark 1 Quote Mack Truck literate. Computer illiterate. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34537-35-years-at-mack-hagerstown-book-back-cover/#findComment-230719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleclutchinweasel Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 It's interesting to me,that they would choose the "modern" logo over the "real" logo for the cover,especially on a book about Mack's history?.......................................MarkBlame Volvo?I guess not... Quote "Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines." Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34537-35-years-at-mack-hagerstown-book-back-cover/#findComment-230733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 It's interesting to me,that they would choose the "modern" logo over the "real" logo for the cover,especially on a book about Mack's history?.......................................MarkI can understand your thought. But even though I also prefer what we called the "5-color logo", the new logo was the official corporate logo when this document was made. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34537-35-years-at-mack-hagerstown-book-back-cover/#findComment-230801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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