Popular Post kscarbel2 Posted February 6, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 6, 2014 Ref. http://www.bigmacktrucks.com/index.php?/topic/34267-macks-v8-powered-c-series-comin-on-strong/. 4 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34567-comin-on-strong-with-macks-v-8-thermodyne-diesel/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
ws721 Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Now that's cool. Thanks for posting Quote Remember if it's got a hood it's no good! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34567-comin-on-strong-with-macks-v-8-thermodyne-diesel/#findComment-230949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleclutchinweasel Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Was that the END-864? Quote "Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines." Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34567-comin-on-strong-with-macks-v-8-thermodyne-diesel/#findComment-230952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Yes, this brochure is about the normally aspirated variant of the 14.2-liter END-864, rated at 255 horsepower.This engine is sister to the 14.2-liter Scania DS14. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34567-comin-on-strong-with-macks-v-8-thermodyne-diesel/#findComment-230953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james j neiweem Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Was that a Scannia or Mack Design. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34567-comin-on-strong-with-macks-v-8-thermodyne-diesel/#findComment-231038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Was that a Scania or Mack Design.I'm traveling but I think that I covered most of it.http://www.bigmacktrucks.com/index.php?/topic/34624-mack-scania-cooperation/ Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34567-comin-on-strong-with-macks-v-8-thermodyne-diesel/#findComment-231042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanbuddy Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 what year did that motor come out? Quote 79 U237 5 sp Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34567-comin-on-strong-with-macks-v-8-thermodyne-diesel/#findComment-231109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Dash Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 The drop in horsepower fits on a graph only 4 bars wide. Ahh, the good old days!As always great info and thanks for sharing. Detailed brochures such as this give a good understanding of what driver's had to work with years ago. Quote Jim Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34567-comin-on-strong-with-macks-v-8-thermodyne-diesel/#findComment-231112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmerrill0516 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Cool brochure. Thanks for posting it. That injector pump was the weak ling in the system. I can see they had a good plan with all the stuff being gear driven and easy to get at...that pump just didn't last. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34567-comin-on-strong-with-macks-v-8-thermodyne-diesel/#findComment-231116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Cool brochure. Thanks for posting it. That injector pump was the weak ling in the system. I can see they had a good plan with all the stuff being gear driven and easy to get at...that pump just didn't last. I was never a fan of the rotary pump. but I recall the army's multi-fuel engines had rotary pumps (i.e. LDS465 and LDT465 in M35 series trucks). Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34567-comin-on-strong-with-macks-v-8-thermodyne-diesel/#findComment-231121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdog Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 speaking of rotary pumps,why did some 673's have them? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34567-comin-on-strong-with-macks-v-8-thermodyne-diesel/#findComment-231175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james j neiweem Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 :SMOKIE-RT:I believe those were rosa master pumps developed by a Stanadyne engineer. The one rotating element had to supply all 6 or 8 cylinders. To much work for one part. Unlike the in line and v bosh pumps where each plunger could take a rest while the other 5 or seven supplied fuel. These pumps were on the early ford 6.9's and 7.3's. Would usually last about100,000 miles. Rebuilds were about 300-400 dollars. Now one new ford injector is about 350.00 dollars. I think we are going backwards as far as maintenance costs and replacement parts. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34567-comin-on-strong-with-macks-v-8-thermodyne-diesel/#findComment-231233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 :SMOKIE-RT:I believe those were rosa master pumps developed by a Stanadyne engineer. The one rotating element had to supply all 6 or 8 cylinders. To much work for one part. Unlike the in line and v bosh pumps where each plunger could take a rest while the other 5 or seven supplied fuel. These pumps were on the early ford 6.9's and 7.3's. Would usually last about100,000 miles. Rebuilds were about 300-400 dollars. Now one new ford injector is about 350.00 dollars. I think we are going backwards as far as maintenance costs and replacement parts.These were American Bosch pumps (as were the pumps the those M35 multi-fuel engines) Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34567-comin-on-strong-with-macks-v-8-thermodyne-diesel/#findComment-231351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
39 Baby Mack Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Mike,I would imagine it was a cost saving,The clever thing was, from what I remember, that there were double lines.One from the pump to a rail with unions in it and one from the rail to each cylinder.The lines from the pump to the rail were special for the PSJ or PLM American Bosch pump while the lines going from the rail to the injectors were the standard lines used with an APE American Bosch pump.Therefore if you needed one of the upper lines it was pretty much a very common item no matter what type pump was on the engine.Ronspeaking of rotary pumps,why did some 673's have them? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34567-comin-on-strong-with-macks-v-8-thermodyne-diesel/#findComment-231654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theakerstwo Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I was told years back that they could not get the inline American bosch fast enough but found enough of these. Quote glenn akers Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34567-comin-on-strong-with-macks-v-8-thermodyne-diesel/#findComment-231660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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