Deere Mack Posted February 26, 2014 Author Share Posted February 26, 2014 Geez, now I have no idea on the specs of the truck. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34812-mack-dump-truck-search-nearing-the-end/page/2/#findComment-234670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deere Mack Posted February 26, 2014 Author Share Posted February 26, 2014 They are now Nextran, used to be Premier Truck Centers Tuscumbia, AL. Always been very helpful, I'm confused why they got all this wrong. Here's the door tag which the vin matches up with a another sticker in the door jamb. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34812-mack-dump-truck-search-nearing-the-end/page/2/#findComment-234673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deere Mack Posted February 26, 2014 Author Share Posted February 26, 2014 what dealer ran that number? ay dealer that serviced that truck since new should know what it is and def what an R685 is. def a 237 with no intercooler present, and def not 44 rears with those bigger spokes. the older 38's had coned and the same hubs as 44, just the 44's had the bracing on the housing.Are you saying they are 38's or 44's? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34812-mack-dump-truck-search-nearing-the-end/page/2/#findComment-234674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2stacksuperdog Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Get more detailed pictures. From my knowledge those a 44k. Greasable trunnion and heavy axles. Trucks from that time with 38k were mainly flat axles and the rubber trunnion 1 Quote Matt Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34812-mack-dump-truck-search-nearing-the-end/page/2/#findComment-234676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1958 F.W.D. Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 That is absolutely NOT a 300 Plus.Looks to me like a 237.Get your file from the Museum, it should have all the original build sheets. They will also send you model-specific engine and driveline manuals, hence the big, heavy boxes. Don't be cheap when you write them a check.8-10 weeks wait time for your files by the way. But WELL worth it. 1 Quote TWO STROKES ARE FOR GARDEN TOOLS Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34812-mack-dump-truck-search-nearing-the-end/page/2/#findComment-234677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deere Mack Posted February 26, 2014 Author Share Posted February 26, 2014 Get more detailed pictures. From my knowledge those a 44k. Greasable trunnion and heavy axles. Trucks from that time with 38k were mainly flat axles and the rubber trunnionIt does have the squar axle housing. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34812-mack-dump-truck-search-nearing-the-end/page/2/#findComment-234678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deere Mack Posted February 26, 2014 Author Share Posted February 26, 2014 That is absolutely NOT a 300 Plus.Looks to me like a 237.Get your file from the Museum, it should have all the original build sheets. They will also send you model-specific engine and driveline manuals, hence the big, heavy boxes. Don't be cheap when you write them a check.8-10 weeks wait time for your files by the way. But WELL worth it. I'm looking now for contacts. Would that be this guy?Don Schumaker, Curator2402 Lehigh Parkway SouthAllentown, PA 18103Telephone: +1 610 351-8413Fax: +1 610 351-8756Or is there a different web site or contact I'm not seeing? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34812-mack-dump-truck-search-nearing-the-end/page/2/#findComment-234679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog13407 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 44's have the greasable trunion and usually the 1/2 stiffener plates welded to the sides of the housings. usually the cone axle caps are early 38's and all of 44's. the B model years had the 38's with cones. all the R models I have seen have flat axle caps for 38's which means they have'' semi floating'' axle, the cone caps are ''full floating'' . that's also a 237 which matches the 685 vin number. any reputable Mack garage should be able to tell you its a 237 and not a 300+by looking at it. a 300+ would be a R612S 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34812-mack-dump-truck-search-nearing-the-end/page/2/#findComment-234683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog man Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Nice looking dog there . Yep im seeing 2 oil filters instead of 3 oil filters which would also be a sign of a 237 & Cones on the Axles im also thinking a Early 38' or @ least a minimum of 44k Mack Rears if not early 38's .as FWD Said send the info to the Mack museum & after receiving that box of info send a donation to the museum . The Mack museum will tell the factory specs for sure . Quote You Cant Fix Stupid. But You Can Numb It With A Sledgehammer. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34812-mack-dump-truck-search-nearing-the-end/page/2/#findComment-234690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1958 F.W.D. Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 I'm looking now for contacts. Would that be this guy?Don Schumaker, Curator2402 Lehigh Parkway SouthAllentown, PA 18103Telephone: +1 610 351-8413Fax: +1 610 351-8756Or is there a different web site or contact I'm not seeing?Yes Don is the one you are looking for. His email is mack.museum@macktrucks.com. Send him an email with your serial number and that you are requesting copies of any and all materials in your factory file. The wait time is 8-10 weeks, between numerous requests and because they are also volunteers. Quote TWO STROKES ARE FOR GARDEN TOOLS Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34812-mack-dump-truck-search-nearing-the-end/page/2/#findComment-234704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 VIN 685 = 237 hp. Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34812-mack-dump-truck-search-nearing-the-end/page/2/#findComment-234711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
85snowdog Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 My 1985 RD685 has 38 rears, and has 5 spoke hubs, I thought Deere Macks 6 spokes meant it was heavier. I would also say it is a 237 for sure.Great find Deere mack, looks like a nice truck. Once you get trucking with it, be patient. With a load you won't set speed records. But it will get you there every time.My advice…….get a BIG horn.So you can blow back at the cars that are passing you, giving you the finger. Quote Keith Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34812-mack-dump-truck-search-nearing-the-end/page/2/#findComment-234716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Yeah, it is not a race car but reliability of a 237 and no electronics will be priceless. Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34812-mack-dump-truck-search-nearing-the-end/page/2/#findComment-234719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1958 F.W.D. Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 .get a BIG horn.So you can blow back at the cars that are passing you, giving you the finger.The Iowa 80 Chrome Shop website has some fantastic locomotive horn sets.....Considering one with an electric compressor/tank set up for the FWD (has juice brakes....) Quote TWO STROKES ARE FOR GARDEN TOOLS Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34812-mack-dump-truck-search-nearing-the-end/page/2/#findComment-234725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKS Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 To me the springs and spokes both look like 55 or 58's,espessualy the springs.. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34812-mack-dump-truck-search-nearing-the-end/page/2/#findComment-234731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb502 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Looks like a 237 and 44 rears to me, I thought by 79 the 38's were flat axles. 1 Quote "Any Society that would give up a little LIBERTY to gain a little SECURITY will Deserve Neither and LOSE BOTH" -Benjamin Franklin"If your gonna be STUPID, you gotta be TOUGH" "You cant always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you get what you need" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34812-mack-dump-truck-search-nearing-the-end/page/2/#findComment-234733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb502 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 That's gonna be a sweet truck for you, I'll take it when you decide to let it go. Quote "Any Society that would give up a little LIBERTY to gain a little SECURITY will Deserve Neither and LOSE BOTH" -Benjamin Franklin"If your gonna be STUPID, you gotta be TOUGH" "You cant always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you get what you need" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34812-mack-dump-truck-search-nearing-the-end/page/2/#findComment-234734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deere Mack Posted February 26, 2014 Author Share Posted February 26, 2014 Yes Don is the one you are looking for. His email is mack.museum@macktrucks.com. Send him an email with your serial number and that you are requesting copies of any and all materials in your factory file. The wait time is 8-10 weeks, between numerous requests and because they are also volunteers. I'm curious will they do this for my 96 CH also? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34812-mack-dump-truck-search-nearing-the-end/page/2/#findComment-234753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1958 F.W.D. Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 I'm curious will they do this for my 96 CH also?Don't see why not, ask him. Quote TWO STROKES ARE FOR GARDEN TOOLS Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34812-mack-dump-truck-search-nearing-the-end/page/2/#findComment-234754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deere Mack Posted February 26, 2014 Author Share Posted February 26, 2014 That's gonna be a sweet truck for you, I'll take it when you decide to let it go.I heard that! I'm already attached. I appreciate you taking the time to look at the different turcks I've mailed ya lately. You don't know how releived I am to have found a truck. I got to where I was seeing craigslist etc at night when I closed my eyes. This truck wasn't even for sale. Looked at an old DM the guy was trying to sell and he started telling about this one and now it calls my place home Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34812-mack-dump-truck-search-nearing-the-end/page/2/#findComment-234755 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Deere Mack Posted February 26, 2014 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 26, 2014 I just had enough time to snap this shot on the way in today. In respect to the previous owner I removed his name from the door. I also just emailed the Mack Musem in hopes of receiving the correct information on the truck, mainly axle specs etc. I do beleive the engine is a 237. 4 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34812-mack-dump-truck-search-nearing-the-end/page/2/#findComment-234759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 The tag next to the injection pump will confirm specs.Provided it is still there. Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34812-mack-dump-truck-search-nearing-the-end/page/2/#findComment-234767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakebrake86 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Man, that's a fine machine right there. 84, if he gets ready to get rid of it I'll arm wrestle you for it! That thing would look right at home sitting next to my blue '96 RD triaxle. We both have tall spokes and Ox Body beds, too. Was Ox making beds like that in '79? I've seen Rogers beds that old but I'm not sure about Ox. Maybe the box got swapped out later in life? Quote Jake Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34812-mack-dump-truck-search-nearing-the-end/page/2/#findComment-234818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deere Mack Posted February 27, 2014 Author Share Posted February 27, 2014 Any tips on where this coolant leak might be? Hoses seem tight, it almost seems to be around the block behind the oil cooler. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34812-mack-dump-truck-search-nearing-the-end/page/2/#findComment-234826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ditchkus Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Could be a soft plug. They are about size of silver dollar. Joe D. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34812-mack-dump-truck-search-nearing-the-end/page/2/#findComment-234834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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