1951 Mack LJ Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 This is making news over here on the west coast. Wondering if the rest of the US has been hearing about this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=armAcbEO1PE&feature=youtu.be Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/35379-bundy-ranch-standoff-against-us-gov/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry T Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Very little about it on "main stream media" but it is getting a lot of attention on Facebook. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/35379-bundy-ranch-standoff-against-us-gov/#findComment-241592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2stacksuperdog Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Interesting Quote Matt Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/35379-bundy-ranch-standoff-against-us-gov/#findComment-241602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiant2 Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 say some of it on fox last nite Quote We the unwilling, Lead by the unqualified, are doing the impossible, for the ungrateful. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/35379-bundy-ranch-standoff-against-us-gov/#findComment-241607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyRebel Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Hannity had the old man on the radio today, and The Kelly File is doing a story on it now. The guy's family has been grazing that land since the 1870's...trying to figure out exactly what went wrong 20 years ago is more than I've got time for. Seems the guy doesn't want to pay the Feds for grazing his cattle on BLM land, but is more than willing to pay the county or the state. So who did his father, grandfather, and every previous generation pay for the ability to graze their cattle on that land? There is something about turtles, too...allegedly "endangered" yet so densely populated that the feds are euthanizing them to control the population. Turtles which for hundreds of years have been coexisting with the cattle, so why change things up now? I doubt the cows give a rip whether there are turtles there or not, and since cows don't eat turtles, I doubt the turtles care whether or not the cows are around. The whole thing just sounds like a huge misunderstanding being escalated to dangerous levels. What it could turn into is VERY dangerous. Will federal agents use deadly force against ordinary citizens? Will ordinary citizens return fire when that happens? Is it going to be another Waco? Or will it be more like the North Bridge? I guess we'll find out soon enough... Quote When approaching a 4-way stop, the vehicle with the biggest tires has the right of way! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/35379-bundy-ranch-standoff-against-us-gov/#findComment-241629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1951 Mack LJ Posted April 12, 2014 Author Share Posted April 12, 2014 I am not sure how true it is but I heard on the radio that the land has been surveyed and that test wells were put in for oil and gas. Might be a reason to run him off so big oil can move in and do some fracking. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/35379-bundy-ranch-standoff-against-us-gov/#findComment-241638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry T Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 900 head of cattle, 1200 square miles. What are the odds of a cow encountering a turtle in it's 1.25 square miles? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/35379-bundy-ranch-standoff-against-us-gov/#findComment-241666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post j hancock Posted April 12, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2014 Don't be a criminal, the guv'ment doesn't like the competition. 4 Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/35379-bundy-ranch-standoff-against-us-gov/#findComment-241670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyRebel Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Oil & gas might be a possibility considering the time frame this all began...20 years ago. Why would THIS administration (which has done everything in its power to make domestic energy production as cost-prohibitive as possible...why would THEY escalate matters to benefit "big oil"? A solar or wind farm? That I could see. This administration doesn't seem eager to promote or endorse the extraction or use of fossil fuels. Like I said, if his family has been grazing cattle on the land since the 1870's like he says, who did his father, grandfather, great grandfather, etc. pay for the rights to use the land? If they paid the state (because he claims it is state land), then the feds have no business there. If prior generations made payments to the federal government, then that is who he also needs to pay. Unless he holds the deed to the property, it isn't "his land", and he needs to pay whoever DOES hold the deed to the land for the right to graze his cattle there. If the federal government (BLM, USFS, NPS, etc.) bought the land from the state, they hold the deed to the property and they have the legal right to prohibit him from grazing the cattle on THEIR land, ESPECIALLY if the guy hasn't paid them for the use of THEIR land. It would be like your neighbor wanting to use your pool in your back yard, so he goes down to city hall and pays the city $10 (because your property happens to be inside the city limits) and thinking that gives him the right to enter your property and swim in your pool. Like I said before, I don't know WHO owns the land...only that the guy says he doesn't, the feds can't, and he is willing to pay the county (but not the feds). Quote When approaching a 4-way stop, the vehicle with the biggest tires has the right of way! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/35379-bundy-ranch-standoff-against-us-gov/#findComment-241685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcel67 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 The government and Obamamma is no different than Putin just take your wright and and land away Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/35379-bundy-ranch-standoff-against-us-gov/#findComment-241689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 The government and Obamamma is no different than Putin just take your wright and and land awayExcept Russia. the Ukraine oil company Nadra Ukrainy , Russian oil company OAO LUKOIL, American owned Royal Dutch Shell and EXXON -Mobile benefit from the take over of the Ukraine.See the Ukraine has the Skifska gas field is estimated to hold recoverable gas reserves in the range of 200-250 billion cubic meters. The field is likely to produce five billion cubic meters of gas annually once developed. EXXON - Mobile and Royal Dutch Shell have a 50-year production/ profit sharing agreement that will net EXXON Mobile alone$ 400 to $500 million a year in profit. Putin is the same as Obama. . . anything for big business and a profit.As for the Environmentalists? The most fertile farm land in the U.S.A. had it's water diverted by the EPA to protect the habitat of a Smelt. On L.I. the former Naval Weapons Center at Calverton has 90% of the development stopped because of a Fiddle Head Fern. Long Island Duck was world famous, the duck farms are all closed because They are near the water! Ducks and Water oh my the humanity of it all! Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/35379-bundy-ranch-standoff-against-us-gov/#findComment-241694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1958 F.W.D. Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 The Gubmint is backing off............http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/04/12/federal-agency-pulls-back-in-nevada-ranch-standoff-but-legal-fight-remains/ 1 Quote TWO STROKES ARE FOR GARDEN TOOLS Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/35379-bundy-ranch-standoff-against-us-gov/#findComment-241714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 The Gubmint is backing off............http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/04/12/federal-agency-pulls-back-in-nevada-ranch-standoff-but-legal-fight-remains/Aisian built Solar power and Reid against the cows and turtles... all about the monies. Just for the BLM and Harry F.Y.I.TortoiseCow Pie Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/35379-bundy-ranch-standoff-against-us-gov/#findComment-241722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 same bullshit,,happened to the logging industy...kill all the jobs,,to save the spotted owl...(REALLY)wow,,,your government at work....incredible....(IDIOTS) personally,i wouldnt hire any of our government officials to feed my dogs,,,that includes,,,the all mighty king and queen of the USA....bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/35379-bundy-ranch-standoff-against-us-gov/#findComment-241753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 In 1973 there was a movie call Executive Action about the Kennedy Assassinations. Probably the 1st "conspiracy " movie on the Kennedy brothers assassinations. The closing scene of the movie is LBJ at what looks like a board meeting. Burt Lancaster listening to LBJ's plans quietly explains the there are 7 major corporations that run the Federal Government and control the world economy, do our bidding and you'll live a long prosperous life. Seems the plot is coming to pass doesn't it. Paul 1 Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/35379-bundy-ranch-standoff-against-us-gov/#findComment-241785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
other dog Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 same bullshit,,happened to the logging industy...kill all the jobs,,to save the spotted owl...(REALLY)wow,,,your government at work....incredible....(IDIOTS) personally,i wouldnt hire any of our government officials to feed my dogs,,,that includes,,,the all mighty king and queen of the USA....bobI haven't used this for several years now, but when they make their big come-back I hope to catch and cook lots of them. Quote Producer of poorly photo-chopped pictures since 1999. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/35379-bundy-ranch-standoff-against-us-gov/#findComment-241804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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