Popular Post rjk welding Posted May 2, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 2, 2014 (edited) I'm buying this truck slowly but surely and looking for a little info ...I'm thinking it's a f model but in all the picks online they didn't have two headlights ......? Also would it have a 350 Cummins in it ? ...He says it has either a 350 or 335 Cummins ...and a 13spd ...Also he says it's a 1969 Edited May 2, 2014 by rjk welding 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarnall Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 It's an F model. The headlights make it look like an IH Emeryville. Looks pretty good. The serial number plate should be o. The driver's door. If you post that someone will tell you what engine it had originally. Good luck. Mike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer52 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Agree with Mike. F model but headlights have been changed to "non-Mack". Original F would have single headlights, not quad. S/N best place to start to determine engine. Quote Ken PRR Country and Charter member of the "Mack Pack" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdog Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 It's a Western F model,if the engine is original it should be a 335 Cummins,as the 350 wasn't around yet.Depending on the frame,it should either be a FS or FL763LST. Western F models were availble with dual headlights on each side,but those there aren't factory. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Nice find! It's going to need some loving. Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer52 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Mike,Thanks for the quad headlight info on the Western F. Did the Western R have the same option? Quote Ken PRR Country and Charter member of the "Mack Pack" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Only Quad lights I've seen on R's were on a few Fire Trucks and Australian R's. Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freightrain Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Headlights look like typical A model KW.Overall looks like a good project. Doesn't look too rotten. Quote Larry 1959 B61 Liv'n Large...................... Charter member of the "MACK PACK" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vision386 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Yup,Hayward (Western) F-Models were available with quad headlights for a short time,and I agree with Mike,shuold be a 335 Cummins,all early Cummins blocks were based on the 355 series block casting. Nice straight western bumper BTW!.........................Mark Quote Mack Truck literate. Computer illiterate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdog Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Mike,Thanks for the quad headlight info on the Western F. Did the Western R have the same option?no but I've seen them put in,some look ok,others not so great. I think Ernies V12 looks good with them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdog Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Headlights look like typical A model KW.Overall looks like a good project. Doesn't look too rotten.Somebody might have replaced the original headlight panels with some off a Hayes,looks similar to me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1958 F.W.D. Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Yup, absolutely a Hayward F-Model. The dead-ringer give away is the aluminum step with the two cutout. Also the different style radiator cowl (bigger, for a bigger radiator for bigger engines......) Rjkwelding, if you send your serial number to the Mack Museum they will send you copies of whatever they have in the factory archives. You want to email it to Don Schumacker at the Museum. The wait is 8-10 weeks. Make sure you send a nice donation when you receive your box in the mail, you will understand why when you receive it.My father ran a single screw Hayward F-Model with a 300 and a 5-speed with a 2-speed Rockwell rear. He worked for a trailer broker (Charles E Danbury) and delivered brand new trailers out of the Trailmobile factory in West Point, Pa. near Philly for years. Put about 700 large on the clock of that one (bought it used.) By the time he finished with it (rotted out) it had a million plus. Quote TWO STROKES ARE FOR GARDEN TOOLS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjk welding Posted May 3, 2014 Author Share Posted May 3, 2014 Wow thanks for all the info guys! I'll try to get the sn number as the truck is 3 hrs away ....and from what I seen there is little rust ..but he says the cab mounts are broke or? Because he says the throttle will stick open if you turn to the right ha ha ..I don't get the box or the lift ..was thinking of putting a flat bed on it or a fifth wheel .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb502 Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Damn not only an F model but a western that looks pretty solid from the pics, nice find, who cares about the headlights, anybody that has driven at night with the old single lights knows why they did it(they suuuuuck). Quote "Any Society that would give up a little LIBERTY to gain a little SECURITY will Deserve Neither and LOSE BOTH" -Benjamin Franklin"If your gonna be STUPID, you gotta be TOUGH" "You cant always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you get what you need" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumbleweed378 Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 It's definitely late 60's (67-69) F model, but those double headlights & their qtr panels look added. Like the Australian models. The Cummins and tranny aren't factory. Typically they'd have came with one of the "Maxi" series combinations. As Mack was still making their own engines, and at that time had introduced the 5sp. The horsepower & torque was enough to handle that type of ratio spread it had in the last 2 gears. With less down shifting while climbing, and enough speed in 5th. That you weren't in the way. My dad's was an F model w/a twin turbo V8/5sp. Back then 80-85mph was fast for a truck with 411 rears. Also typical for the time. Growing up in the 70's in trucking was great! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tjc transport Posted September 23, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2022 the engine and trans could very well have been factory installed. back then you could order a mack with any engine trans combo you wanted. i have seen cummins, detroit, cat, duetz, scania, and mack engines installed by the factory. and every trans from 5 speed through 20 speed. 3 Quote when you are up to your armpits in alligators, it is hard to remember you only came in to drain the swamp.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleclutchinweasel Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 This thread is almost as old as that truck! 1 1 Quote "Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavCut Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 I wonder if @rjk welding ended up with the truck/what he did with it? Maybe @Tumbleweed378's post will bring RJ back seeing how he hasn't been on since 2015... Any photos of your Dad's truck @Tumbleweed378? If so start up a new thread with some. We all love photos of old Macks! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 Yes it is my first truck with an F model I’m surprised I never put it on here…. In thier day there was thousands of them everywhere I am surprised they’re not much of a big hit today at the shows Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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