nedly05 Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 I am thinking of switching to hub pilot hubs and wheels on my RD, it's going to need brakes soon so I'm thinking it would be good to do it all at the same time. My main reason for wanting to do this is to Eliminate wheel wobble, and for the ease of changing tires and brakes. From what I understand its not a big deal to do, I'm mostly concerned about what to do with the old hubs and rims. From what I can see on here they should sell, how much would they be worth? They have about 190,000 on them. It would be nice to sell them to off set the cost of the conversion. Any thoughts or advice on this project? Thanks!! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/35889-spoke-to-hub-pilot-conversion/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmyb Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Did you end up doing the conversion? I'm pricing up the same thing now. It pays to shop around, one price I got was $2300, and another was $1600. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/35889-spoke-to-hub-pilot-conversion/#findComment-272400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Did you end up doing the conversion? I'm pricing up the same thing now. It pays to shop around, one price I got was $2300, and another was $1600.do tell per wheel or what I have never priced them so I have no idea but dont keep it a secretPaul Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/35889-spoke-to-hub-pilot-conversion/#findComment-272403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmyb Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Well I went straight to the horses mouth and rang mack in wacol. Their price was $2300 for both sides. I then tried gleemans here in Perth. $500 for the hub, $200 for the drum, I'm guessing $50-$100 for wheel seal and im gonna use my bearings as they are nearly new. So about $1600 for both. Not sure if they are using the same brand parts. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/35889-spoke-to-hub-pilot-conversion/#findComment-272404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Wow thats a lot cheaper than I would have thought thanks for the reply Paul Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/35889-spoke-to-hub-pilot-conversion/#findComment-272406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glensts Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 (edited) I'm doing this right now as well on a 95 CH 613 with all 6 wheels being spoked.New Gunite hub from Mack (eaton diff) was $500, $260 from parts storefront hub was $700 from Mack, $350 from parts store.New aluminum rims 24.5, accuride ultra polished both sides $290 each.Bearings matched so will reuse them, and seals were $40studs and nuts $9 setDrums $80All said and done it should be $5900 Canadian, but 4 of the rims go on another truck with steels that I am goingto put on Inners so that both trucks have Aluminum outside.This truck had 22.5's before so now all the trucks and trailers will have the same size.Seems like an awful lot but now that I started it I have to finish it.My uncle is a gravel hauler who is interested in the old tires for his trailers, being it costs as much at a tire shop to remove the tire I will probably just give him the rims.No interest in the hubs as of yet but spoked wheels are getting pretty uncommon around here now.And I think used drums are pretty much free Edited December 30, 2014 by Glensts Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/35889-spoke-to-hub-pilot-conversion/#findComment-272415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HK Trucking Posted January 10, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 10, 2015 I'll never understand why so many people want to change trucks over from spoke wheels to Budds or Unimounts.Wheel wobble on spoke wheels is not an issue if they're "trued up" when installed. 3 Quote "If You Can't Shift It Smoothly, You Shouldn't Be Driving It" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/35889-spoke-to-hub-pilot-conversion/#findComment-273811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theakerstwo Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 I have daytons on my superliner and have never saw one wobble yet.I have a flat maybe ever other week cause I am dump trucking and around junk.The tire shop also will use a 1/2 impac to install and they know that I am going to check them in a few days.Just like a good tire man. Quote glenn akers Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/35889-spoke-to-hub-pilot-conversion/#findComment-273820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ditchkus Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Much easier doing your own tire work with spokes. If spoke hub is not shot not much of a problem to true up with a 4"x4" board. Checking them is much easier also with a 3/4" ratchet and 1 1/4" socket.Joe D. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/35889-spoke-to-hub-pilot-conversion/#findComment-273827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swishy Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 U jokers R go n backwardsSpider, Spoke, Wobbly wheels rulehave one changed ovr while U disc wheel jokers R rollin a cigarette n scratch n u're assnever evr do up Spoke wheels wiff rattle gun az they will wobblewithin 5mm 1/4 inch wobble = OKLook after u're wheels n they will look after ULOLCya§wishy Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/35889-spoke-to-hub-pilot-conversion/#findComment-273832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Swishy you are so much wiser than me with all them flash words but I reckon you have got all about rightonly one more thing left to add doing the nuts with a rattle gun will wreck them studs quick as look at you and you only find out when you are on the side of the road change a flat bag swearing about the young whipper snapper the did them with a rattle gun because a five spoke spider dont hold on any good with only four nuts gotta keep stopping every half and hour and re tighteen nuts Swishy why arent you Geeloooooooooooooooooooooong ??????????Paul Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/35889-spoke-to-hub-pilot-conversion/#findComment-273835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swishy Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Mrs M80RE: Swishy why arent you GeeloooooooooooooooooooooongAs much az eye'd like 2 B there .... me sore ass ( Absess) sez nohttp://www.hcvc.com.au/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1415353635/85#85Fotos should roll in soon..... if they dun let to much dark escape from the dark roomLOLcya§wishy Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/35889-spoke-to-hub-pilot-conversion/#findComment-273847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmyb Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I happen to like the look of 10 stud hubs. Spider hubs are lot easier to change. I guess it's everyone's personal preference. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/35889-spoke-to-hub-pilot-conversion/#findComment-273962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
6368 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Now I appreciate spokes but as a kid( 21) the first thing i did to my first truck (a FLC12064) was take off those six spokes and put on budds. I liked that alcoa look and i was getting paid by the ton. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/35889-spoke-to-hub-pilot-conversion/#findComment-273984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I think back in the day every truck driver in Australia prefered spiders spokes daytons what ever you call them because tyres were no were near as good as they are now and flats were common depending on were you were 3 or 4 flat tyres a day so when you had those Bud rims with 2 rows of nuts to undo if it was a inside duel or when the inner nut sticks to the outer one and you have to stuff around and its 100 degrees in the shade those five or six stud spiders look like a dreamHaving said all that today I hardley ever see any truck sold with spiders tyres are better roads are a dream and no more bloody double rows of nuts are the good old day hey Paul Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/35889-spoke-to-hub-pilot-conversion/#findComment-273995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IH Farms 2 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 My biggest issue with spokes is the weight you contend with when doing a brake job or wheel seal if you don't have a tire dolly. Other than that they're not that bad but I'll keep my aluminum budds I haul a lot of grain and the weight savings is helpful Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/35889-spoke-to-hub-pilot-conversion/#findComment-274338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 you put a board on the ground under the duels leave the wheels on the hub knock the axle out have the board well greased on the side facing up undo the bearings and slowly lower down on a jack until the wait is off the bearing then slide the wheels and hub together once the wheel is clear roll not quite one turn away (not so the grease touches the ground) remove board then you have a nice clean area to work do the reverse when putting it back together no lifting required and can be done on the side of the road on your own at least thats what I have done the main thing I learn from this type of discussion is how requirements are different around the world for what we need just because some thing works in our wide brown land dosnt mean it's any good else were Thanks for the discussion fella'sPaul Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/35889-spoke-to-hub-pilot-conversion/#findComment-274348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny @ Global Truck Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 I sell the hub-pilot conversions. Been working with all my vendors to get a reasonable package deal together. Typical 38K or 44K rears I sell the complete kit for $1220 per axle. Includes both hubs, drums, inner & outer bearing combos, wheel seals, studs and nuts. Front 10K-20K conversions run about $1400 per axle. I have a thousand spokes for sale. 90% of them are either obsolete or through the roof if still available so, I've been moving a lot of these conversion kits. Quote Donny Jones Global Truck Traders www.gttparts.com (603)239-7008 Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/35889-spoke-to-hub-pilot-conversion/#findComment-405254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian@cjcontractors.net Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 On 8/31/2018 at 1:08 PM, Donny @ Global Truck said: I sell the hub-pilot conversions. Been working with all my vendors to get a reasonable package deal together. Typical 38K or 44K rears I sell the complete kit for $1220 per axle. Includes both hubs, drums, inner & outer bearing combos, wheel seals, studs and nuts. Front 10K-20K conversions run about $1400 per axle. I have a thousand spokes for sale. 90% of them are either obsolete or through the roof if still available so, I've been moving a lot of these conversion kits. Can I get your number to buy one of these kits Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/35889-spoke-to-hub-pilot-conversion/#findComment-411721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave nett Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 where do the conversation kits ship from and how much Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/35889-spoke-to-hub-pilot-conversion/#findComment-420437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
8888 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 On 1/10/2015 at 4:26 PM, Swishy said: U jokers R go n backwards Spider, Spoke, Wobbly wheels rule have one changed ovr while U disc wheel jokers R rollin a cigarette n scratch n u're ass never evr do up Spoke wheels wiff rattle gun az they will wobble within 5mm 1/4 inch wobble = OK Look after u're wheels n they will look after U LOL Cya §wishy Hey Joker 1/4" is 6.4 mm 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/35889-spoke-to-hub-pilot-conversion/#findComment-436981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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