vision386 Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Mike,i don't don't have any firsthand experience with the Vintage Air type units,have seen them on a few vintage trucks though. I do however know for a fact how well a Red-Dot low profile unit works,friend of mine in Jersey runs an F-Model doing local farm hauls,i have driven the truck,and it will run you out of the cab! pretty much all he did was seal up all the leaks,gaps he could find,and did some extra insulation in the cab,it's short enough you'd hardly notice it on a W-Model..........................Mark Quote Mack Truck literate. Computer illiterate. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/36128-ready-to-hit-the-road/page/2/#findComment-250901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Superdog Posted June 29, 2014 Author Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2014 sorry for poor phone pic 7 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/36128-ready-to-hit-the-road/page/2/#findComment-250907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b61mack Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Mike I have the middle size vintage air in my B model it works good in a small cab but I think even the largest on wouldn't be big enough for a Cruiseliner. I have a red dot on a R model and it works great, I would rather go with a red dot roof mount. Matt Pfahl had a vintage air and didn't have too good of luck with it, he installed a roof top,dont know what kind though. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/36128-ready-to-hit-the-road/page/2/#findComment-250912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
felicello122 Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Roof mount would look cool too! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/36128-ready-to-hit-the-road/page/2/#findComment-250926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearhead204 Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 I talked to reddot about a year ago and 2300.00 I think was the price for a complete new system Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/36128-ready-to-hit-the-road/page/2/#findComment-250937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb502 Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Mike is there enough room behind thge grilledenser for a seperate condenser, I did it to a SUperliner in the past and it makes the AC work a whole lot better with a newer style condenser and compressor, and no more bad a/c lines to the grilledenser. Quote "Any Society that would give up a little LIBERTY to gain a little SECURITY will Deserve Neither and LOSE BOTH" -Benjamin Franklin"If your gonna be STUPID, you gotta be TOUGH" "You cant always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you get what you need" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/36128-ready-to-hit-the-road/page/2/#findComment-251107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Superdog Posted July 1, 2014 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 1, 2014 32 years apart,1982 truck,and 2014 trailer 5 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/36128-ready-to-hit-the-road/page/2/#findComment-251174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2stacksuperdog Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Mike is there enough room behind thge grilledenser for a seperate condenser, I did it to a SUperliner in the past and it makes the AC work a whole lot better with a newer style condenser and compressor, and no more bad a/c lines to the grilledenser.You have any pics? I was told the hood is too close to put one in, in a superliner 2. We want to put a/c back in our superliner but the grilledenser leaks. Everything else is there. Quote Matt Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/36128-ready-to-hit-the-road/page/2/#findComment-251176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdog Posted July 1, 2014 Author Share Posted July 1, 2014 Mike is there enough room behind thge grilledenser for a seperate condenser, I did it to a SUperliner in the past and it makes the AC work a whole lot better with a newer style condenser and compressor, and no more bad a/c lines to the grilledenser.I did that to my '86 Superliner,and there is plenty of room on this truck too,no ATTAC in front of radiator,but the problem is,everything under the dash is gone too. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/36128-ready-to-hit-the-road/page/2/#findComment-251182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back In Black Pulling Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 You have any pics? I was told the hood is too close to put one in, in a superliner 2. We want to put a/c back in our superliner but the grilledenser leaks. Everything else is there.Plenty of room under Air Cooler Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/36128-ready-to-hit-the-road/page/2/#findComment-251189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ws721 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 If you have the AATAC you fit a condenser between the grill and radiator. Ok, here we go. Get your pen and paper. I fixed the stock A.C. but had to cut hole in dash cover in order to get enough air into cab. If the rear A.C. was hooked up it would freeze you out. As it stands its ok. Remember when I asked you for dash pieces? So I know you have the correct parts. Why is your bunk unit in the left side? Ive had 3 Cruiseliners and all bunk unit were in right side. The evaporator is avialiable here thru a local guy. I replaced just about everything in there. The reason I could not hook rear unit was the only condenser that would fit isn't big enough to handle 2 units. There is very little room under the AATAC and bottom of grill. Also I use R12 Freon because it cools better in the old systems. Hey were 80's all the right down to my 1987 Alpine stereo casset ! LOL. Also keep inmind when doing a condenser when you have air ride cab the grill moves but not the radiator Quote Remember if it's got a hood it's no good! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/36128-ready-to-hit-the-road/page/2/#findComment-251194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2stacksuperdog Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Plenty of room under Air CoolerWouldn't the bumper block it? if anyone who did this could post some pictures it would be appreciated. Its nice to have a cool truck after chaining down a load in 90 degree weather. Quote Matt Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/36128-ready-to-hit-the-road/page/2/#findComment-251196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ws721 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 I can send you a phone pic if you like. I used a condenser for a Mack RD. I had to drill and tap the radiator frame and add a 3 in piece to the left side to mount it. The good thing is its in front of the fan so the air is pulled thru it. 1 Quote Remember if it's got a hood it's no good! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/36128-ready-to-hit-the-road/page/2/#findComment-251200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2stacksuperdog Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Is that in a superliner or a WS? Quote Matt Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/36128-ready-to-hit-the-road/page/2/#findComment-251204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dm 800 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 2stacksuperdog you can fit that in a superliner behind the grilldenser i have put 3 of them in and works nice Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/36128-ready-to-hit-the-road/page/2/#findComment-251210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearhead204 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 I'm fixin to do mine as well while back at mudcungie I found a vender selling used condensers and I bought a good used for a pinnacle I think but it looks like it will go in front of the charge air cooler and still have clearance for the hood / old grilldenser I think it is close to a mid 90's rd688 set up Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/36128-ready-to-hit-the-road/page/2/#findComment-251233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ws721 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Mine is a WS like in the pic at beginning of this thread. Quote Remember if it's got a hood it's no good! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/36128-ready-to-hit-the-road/page/2/#findComment-251258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog13407 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Mike, you might just wanna remind him how many old Macks YOU drove with NO Ac......?????? My grandfather says the old B models were the worst when they got a few years old and the cab insulation started to break down. said he drove a B62SX on construction with a 464 and quadbox that thy mounted a thermometer to the dash. says 138 degrees in that truck on a hot summer day was cool.... 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/36128-ready-to-hit-the-road/page/2/#findComment-251275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2stacksuperdog Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 I'm fixin to do mine as well while back at mudcungie I found a vender selling used condensers and I bought a good used for a pinnacle I think but it looks like it will go in front of the charge air cooler and still have clearance for the hood / old grilldenser I think it is close to a mid 90's rd688 set upI believe my dad and i were standing there as you were lookin at them and they were discussing the bumpers. When you said it had to be shipped to Washington i started to put it together. Quote Matt Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/36128-ready-to-hit-the-road/page/2/#findComment-251293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2stacksuperdog Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Also what condensers do you guys recommend to use? Quote Matt Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/36128-ready-to-hit-the-road/page/2/#findComment-251295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ws721 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 If your doing a Superliner im afraid im no help to you. I could dig the part number for the condenser that I used but I don't know if you have the same set up. Quote Remember if it's got a hood it's no good! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/36128-ready-to-hit-the-road/page/2/#findComment-251296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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