Popular Post 85snowdog Posted September 20, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 20, 2014 A good friend of mine just got his new Granite. It is the first Mack he has ever owned. I hope it works well for him.I might have specs wrong, but I am pretty sure - 345 cummins with 6 speed auto, 14,6 front 23 rear, air ride.I got to take it for a spin. O wow, what a nice truck. I'm think'n it would be easy to spend a day in it, as long as your not sitting at the Mack dealer waiting for repairs. Very nice truck!! 3 Quote Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdogtrucker Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Looks good,but he should have blasted and painted the body before mounting it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctkiteboarding Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 hook and lift? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
85snowdog Posted September 20, 2014 Author Share Posted September 20, 2014 Yes , a hook lift. He has a different bins and the flat bed for it. I agree though, rusty flatbed stands out. 1 Quote Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctkiteboarding Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 (edited) cant beat a hook truck i have one on a isuzu cab over and i love it, two cans , flat bed and a chipper box... Every contractor should have one its really a great set up. Edited September 20, 2014 by ctkiteboarding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_martell Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Stupid question maybe, and sorry for hijacking, but how much lighter if at all would a hook loader be vs a roll off? Quote Lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 The hook lift system is probably heavier. The interchangeable bodies have to be pretty rugged to take the forces when fully loaded.The hook lift excels in versatility switching between bodies from flatbeds that can level load items, bins, box bodies, etc. with one chassis. Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
85snowdog Posted September 21, 2014 Author Share Posted September 21, 2014 Sorry J_martell, I don't know the answer to your question. I am thinking they are lighter, but don't know for sure. Maybe someone else on here may have some insight.Good question though.Keith Quote Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_martell Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 We have an assortment of bins and a deck for machinery for the roll offs, but the tare weights are kinda ridiculous for trying to maximize loads....20yd (smallest cans) tare @ 17,100kg on my GU and around 16,000 on the RD tandem and 50yd are almost 19,000kg....but a dump of similar preportions tares @ 15,000 or less. It's the versatility we need, but trying to save weight. 16 tonne payload doesn't go too far. The Rd is even lower, MTO only allows 28,000kg gross.....Also seems that hook loaders dont have the finese for pick ups due to the no rails thing.....never run one, but they seem to tip the can back an awful lot during p/u.... 1 Quote Lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatcity Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 hook lifts don't need the height clearance that a roll off doeshave seen tandem hook lifts but most are S/A units 10 yd cansgood for smaller projects or space limitationsHad thought about getting a truck and some cans at one time. could just go around a jobsite and load onto my grapple-make one trip instead of 5 Quote Success is only a stones throw away.................................................................for a Palestinian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6368 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Also seems that hook loaders dont have the finese for pick ups due to the no rails thing...I'am not sure what you mean by finese. but having run both I much prefer the hooklift to the cable type. a couple of reasons are1 you can pick cans at an angle with a hook.2 you don't have to get out of the cab to load.3 you can use the hook like a craneI totally agree on the light weight thing... you can use it like a dump truck but you can't get the tonnage like one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctkiteboarding Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 In a smaller application I cant see the hook being out performed , 10 /15y cans etc. fast and simple , really has proven to be ireplaceable for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatcity Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 It's not the finesse of the truck, but the finesse of the driver 1 Quote Success is only a stones throw away.................................................................for a Palestinian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_martell Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 I'am not sure what you mean by finese. but having run both I much prefer the hooklift to the cable type. a couple of reasons are1 you can pick cans at an angle with a hook.2 you don't have to get out of the cab to load.3 you can use the hook like a craneI totally agree on the light weight thing... you can use it like a dump truck but you can't get the tonnage like one1. Sure you can, I do it daily...trick to minimizing the roofers missing the can is dropping it super close along the wall, get most of the can hagnkng off the tails, position the back close and set it down, then let the cable out and for the last few feet, crank the wheel away from the building, swinging the back of the truck and the front of the bin into the wall...to pu set up at an angle (I've done about 30* from center without scratching/gouging the tails), pick up the bin and turn in to pull it off the wall at the same shallow angle I put it down. easier when the bin is loaded right, heavy shit at the front.....with gravel you only need 1/4 of the bin on the truck to lift the feet off the ground....it gets interesting picking up a super tail heavy bin, one last week all the gravel/roof mat was at the doors and the insulation was in the front.....Had 90% of the bin on the truck before it would lift the feet.....and the front end lolRe-read the finese thing, and it wasn't what iwas talking about, and I'm not sure how to explain it..... Quote Lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mack Fan Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 It's an MHD, right?By the way, in terms of sales, how is this new range of truck doing since the launch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
granitefan713 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Nice truck! I wish him luck! Quote http://www.flickr.com/photos/granitefan713/-Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Moody Jr Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Nice truck, I drive a 2014 Granite with a MP8, basic no problem except for couple recalls. Those recall took only about 30 minutes to do at dealer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbigrig Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 The MHD hasn't been doing too bad up here. I'm only starting to see them catch on. A few Ontario fleets have bought some for plowing season coming up (Gazzola Paving etc.) and heavy straight trucks. They are priced right up here but with the Cummins power cross over I have seen Mack dealer shops have issues getting parts and diagnosing the power plant in a timely manner for the customers sake. I have contemplated ordering and MHD tractor for some of our light city loads. Funny thing is that Mack doesn't allow you to order an MHD as a tractor so the order would come in as a straight truck with full trailer connections on the frame. A Mack engineer in Macungie told me Bulkmatic was looking to try the same spec for certain work.The ISL is a neat motor but not as robust as many think. I've seen many in municipal use with block issues and bent rods.(especially from sudden EGR cooler failure) The City of Toronto is starting to order more Mack Granites and LE's. All the Toronto orders are MP7 with Allison. They have lots of ISL's in Shakers so they may be on to something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb502 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 I would have to see the specs side by side but I think I would stick with a granite set forward with an mp7 and Allison for light local stuff. I just haven't seen enough difference in the std and the MHD to justify it and the ISL is nearly the same size as an MP7. Quote "Any Society that would give up a little LIBERTY to gain a little SECURITY will Deserve Neither and LOSE BOTH" -Benjamin Franklin"If your gonna be STUPID, you gotta be TOUGH" "You cant always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you get what you need" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mack Fan Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Thanks for the feedback guys. For the MHD, personnaly, I haven't seen a single unit in the greater Montreal area However, we definitively see a lot of GUs around, 8x4 dump and mixer trucks (Demix/Holcim, Unibeton, for the larger companies but the small and medium size companies have bought significant numbers of GUs too).Last week, I even saw a brand new GU for Lafarge! I was wondering when they were going to start the replacement of their aging Paystars and older Mack models... Looks like it's kicking in slowly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickykarenpr Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 nice look to the new granite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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