Artful dodger Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 No he didn’t man I’m headed to Lowe’s to grab some kroil and head out there to the truck when I crossed up the part numbers that Mack in spfld gave clay I got EEX-2054 for both. same part for front 1/3 and rear 1/3 I gotta get them apart today for sure and figure out how I’m gona get the part. I and everything I need with it gaskets studs the whole 9 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37225-2005-chn613-aset-427-powertorqueboost-loss-please-help/page/10/#findComment-551376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artful dodger Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 How did what I just posted go to the other thread when I replied here Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37225-2005-chn613-aset-427-powertorqueboost-loss-please-help/page/10/#findComment-551377 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Heinz Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 13 minutes ago, Artful dodger said: No he didn’t man I’m headed to Lowe’s to grab some kroil and head out there to the truck when I crossed up the part numbers that Mack in spfld gave clay I got EEX-2054 for both. same part for front 1/3 and rear 1/3 I gotta get them apart today for sure and figure out how I’m gona get the part. I and everything I need with it gaskets studs the whole 9 Yeah, he said he didn't have a chance yesterday. You're right about the front and rear being the same part number, but start praying you don't need the center, thing's unavailable into the next century right now. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37225-2005-chn613-aset-427-powertorqueboost-loss-please-help/page/10/#findComment-551378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 10 hours ago, Artful dodger said: U bet thanks man. Where exactly does the 1/8 inch blockoff plate meet to go under the EGR Valve! also if the guy has an air hammer that can assist in removing the manifold end! assuming the center section is still usable! how ever the less you disturb the better off you are if the egr valve can stay on leave it on if the part is that scarce might be an idea to leave it alone the studs that hold the valve can break! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37225-2005-chn613-aset-427-powertorqueboost-loss-please-help/page/10/#findComment-551379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artful dodger Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 I carry an air hammer in the damn truck lol I’m headed out there I’ll keep u guys posted he made it sound like center was useable he’s worried we won’t get it apart Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37225-2005-chn613-aset-427-powertorqueboost-loss-please-help/page/10/#findComment-551381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Heinz Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 (edited) 10 hours ago, Artful dodger said: U bet thanks man. Where exactly does the 1/8 inch blockoff plate meet to go Missed this, but in response to FJH's comment, here's a picture to help. Instead of the gasket Option 8, put the plate there. This is 90° from the turbo on the manifold. Edited May 9 by The Heinz Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37225-2005-chn613-aset-427-powertorqueboost-loss-please-help/page/10/#findComment-551382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artful dodger Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 Okay high temp gasket maker or should I make something out of gasket naterial Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37225-2005-chn613-aset-427-powertorqueboost-loss-please-help/page/10/#findComment-551383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 2 minutes ago, Artful dodger said: Okay high temp gasket maker or should I make something out of gasket naterial Re Read the other post on the other thread bro I added caution there Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37225-2005-chn613-aset-427-powertorqueboost-loss-please-help/page/10/#findComment-551384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artful dodger Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 Okay I don’t know if he took edge valve off or not Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37225-2005-chn613-aset-427-powertorqueboost-loss-please-help/page/10/#findComment-551385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artful dodger Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 Yea I did buddy if it’s good and he didn’t take it off I’m not gona risk it if that center pc is good if it’s not I don’t know what I’m gona do Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37225-2005-chn613-aset-427-powertorqueboost-loss-please-help/page/10/#findComment-551386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 9 minutes ago, Artful dodger said: Okay I don’t know if he took edge valve off or not anything involving bolts on the hot side of any of these EGR engines is a pain ! MP engines are worse! turbo studs break everything is bad on them! after about a year of operation its a nightmare to have to work on any exhast stuff! Just ask Heinz how much exhaust stuff he sells for MP engines! and is cheaper to buy the part some times than piss around trying to get broken studs out! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37225-2005-chn613-aset-427-powertorqueboost-loss-please-help/page/10/#findComment-551387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 9 minutes ago, Artful dodger said: Yea I did buddy if it’s good and he didn’t take it off I’m not gona risk it if that center pc is good if it’s not I don’t know what I’m gona do Yup good plan! Some Guys get carried away pulling everything to bits when its not necessary specially when parts are scarce ! I wasn't thinking about that when I first posted! Let sleeping dogs lie! disturb as little as possible! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37225-2005-chn613-aset-427-powertorqueboost-loss-please-help/page/10/#findComment-551388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Heinz Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 22 minutes ago, fjh said: anything involving bolts on the hot side of any of these EGR engines is a pain ! MP engines are worse! turbo studs break everything is bad on them! after about a year of operation its a nightmare to have to work on any exhast stuff! Just ask Heinz how much exhaust stuff he sells for MP engines! and is cheaper to buy the part some times than piss around trying to get broken studs out! Any time an exhaust manifold comes off, quote every bolt, stud, nut, spacer, and gasket. Also quote some Kroil. Got one in the shop right now that started as an EGR cooler R&R, turned into exhaust manifold replacement for exactly what you think. Want to know a worse truck for frozen bolts? Hino. Their DPF's are bolted into the SCR system, not clamped. So when the crappy injectors overfuel and melt the DPF, you also get to fight seized hardware the entire time. Awful. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37225-2005-chn613-aset-427-powertorqueboost-loss-please-help/page/10/#findComment-551389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artful dodger Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 Okay guys here’s the big ? We have clay is pretty salty with the Mack’s we have here and he owns 2 that are deleted he’s worried about how it’s programmed I’ll explain we can from pai I’ll probably need hienz for that get an exhaust manifold that will fit that doesn’t have a place for an egr valve comes in a kit with studs and gaskets so that would eliminate having to plate it but they only have 1 pipe out of the egr plugged so the s pipe with the 2 sensors on it is still moving exhaust if we eliminate it and cut those sensors out will it kill the boost we will get if it not programmed for them to be gone? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37225-2005-chn613-aset-427-powertorqueboost-loss-please-help/page/10/#findComment-551390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 36 minutes ago, The Heinz said: Any time an exhaust manifold comes off, quote every bolt, stud, nut, spacer, and gasket. Also quote some Kroil. Got one in the shop right now that started as an EGR cooler R&R, turned into exhaust manifold replacement for exactly what you think. Want to know a worse truck for frozen bolts? Hino. Their DPF's are bolted into the SCR system, not clamped. So when the crappy injectors overfuel and melt the DPF, you also get to fight seized hardware the entire time. Awful. Yup we used to sell the Hino product ! They are a good unit but like Volvo they know how to charge for parts! 13 minutes ago, Artful dodger said: Okay guys here’s the big ? We have clay is pretty salty with the Mack’s we have here and he owns 2 that are deleted he’s worried about how it’s programmed I’ll explain we can from pai I’ll probably need hienz for that get an exhaust manifold that will fit that doesn’t have a place for an egr valve comes in a kit with studs and gaskets so that would eliminate having to plate it but they only have 1 pipe out of the egr plugged so the s pipe with the 2 sensors on it is still moving exhaust if we eliminate it and cut those sensors out will it kill the boost we will get if it not programmed for them to be gone? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37225-2005-chn613-aset-427-powertorqueboost-loss-please-help/page/10/#findComment-551391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 24 minutes ago, Artful dodger said: Okay guys here’s the big ? We have clay is pretty salty with the Mack’s we have here and he owns 2 that are deleted he’s worried about how it’s programmed I’ll explain we can from pai I’ll probably need hienz for that get an exhaust manifold that will fit that doesn’t have a place for an egr valve comes in a kit with studs and gaskets so that would eliminate having to plate it but they only have 1 pipe out of the egr plugged so the s pipe with the 2 sensors on it is still moving exhaust if we eliminate it and cut those sensors out will it kill the boost we will get if it not programmed for them to be gone? NO! do not cut wires ! leave everything as is! You risk a derate if there is an open circuit! the computer as is now just sees there is not enough EGR flow! And will just open the EGR valve more! if its blocked it won't matter! changing manifolds will require a different turbo the wheel speed sensor won't be there something the computer looks at! BRO don't mess with things we know what were dealing with up to this point! Till you got enough cash to deal with the turbo end leave things alone! You know what to do to make it pull! 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37225-2005-chn613-aset-427-powertorqueboost-loss-please-help/page/10/#findComment-551392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 Dodger please don't take offence ! I am trying to view this from the big picture your current financial and personal challenges as well keep the costs to a minimum while weigh off the other stuff that's been going on in your life there ! The father situation is going to be a difficult and long haul as well! That's a nasty situation ! One of my good customers son had LGD it took its toll on his life style! 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37225-2005-chn613-aset-427-powertorqueboost-loss-please-help/page/10/#findComment-551394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artful dodger Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 Oh ya no your not offending me at all man I appreciate all of you center section is good air hammer and good lubricant did the trick going to replace the front third three of the injector things ECUs or EBU or whatever they called compressor turbo gasket and probably gonna order a new control valve controller for the gate. As soon as I get free of some money, I’m gonna have Hines get me the filter assembly for that VGT filter and put it back on there, we’re gonna run cleaner with this old valve for just a little while to try to get the old pushed out. I’ll change the lights change the valve controller and put the filter assembly on and then will be just like it was when it come out. Anything you have done I appreciate your help people these days. Don’t help strangers kind of refreshing to see it spend as much time with me as y’all.have 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37225-2005-chn613-aset-427-powertorqueboost-loss-please-help/page/10/#findComment-551395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Artful dodger Posted May 9 Popular Post Share Posted May 9 Yo, may have to translate that I’m driving and it talk to text so some of that shit probably don’t make any sense 1 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37225-2005-chn613-aset-427-powertorqueboost-loss-please-help/page/10/#findComment-551396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 Glad you got it apart, yes, it looks like talk to text.. all good. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37225-2005-chn613-aset-427-powertorqueboost-loss-please-help/page/10/#findComment-551397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artful dodger Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 Ya sorry about that if folks just helped one another like we have done here what a world we would have. I’ll keep you posted have it back together tomorrow and hopefully runnin like a scalded dog 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37225-2005-chn613-aset-427-powertorqueboost-loss-please-help/page/10/#findComment-551398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 16 hours ago, Joey Mack said: if the center section is good.. RE-USE IT !! Volvo is proud of that part, and it may be on national backorder.. put eyes on it !! sitting in the background reading AND learning on this one. am amazed at the sentence RE- USE IT. and also the follow up comments of separating the three pieces. in the day , after extended periods of use ,the three pieces were mated for life. one cracked (couldn't be re welded) then 3 pieces were purchased. do newer style have the expansion ring on 2 end internal pieces for a seal ?? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37225-2005-chn613-aset-427-powertorqueboost-loss-please-help/page/10/#findComment-551399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 There arent any sealing rings any more, like an E-9 would have. Good to see you here Mech... 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37225-2005-chn613-aset-427-powertorqueboost-loss-please-help/page/10/#findComment-551400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Artful dodger Posted May 10 Popular Post Share Posted May 10 Mech these guys have been great to me he uses bold letters so I know it’s important I’m a novice on these Mack engines we managed to get the front 1/3 separated from the middle it took a bit of careful air hammer execution for sure the middle section has so much crap on it we are gona clean it all up tomorrow and check close for cracks gona try a set up u an account with Heinz’s tomorrow aso what got me stumped is what can be removed bypassed and plugged and not throw the ecm into panic mode and it shut down on me I need to find someone with a custom program when this All done . would gladly take anything you can offer as far as advice ?s I take all the help I can get fjh ,Joe and hienz are above and beyond good guys 1 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37225-2005-chn613-aset-427-powertorqueboost-loss-please-help/page/10/#findComment-551437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 I take all the help I can get fjh ,Joe and hienz are above and beyond good guys When I see a guy working as hard as you have to keep things together Life included! I'm going to help where I can! Im sure Joey and Hienz feel the same way! Anytime Bro! 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37225-2005-chn613-aset-427-powertorqueboost-loss-please-help/page/10/#findComment-551448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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