R.E.D Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Hey fellas...since this afternoon the truck has been acting weird. .t2090 grinds once in 1 2nd or 3rd..and won't move...it just sits there grinding In which ever of the of those 3 gears is is in..I had to take off on 4th in order to make it home..what am I looking at here?shift forks ? Syncro? I will check oil level but it should be fine..i replaced it when i replaced the clutch 4 months ago..can you all please help Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37254-t2090-grinds/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
turckster Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Does it have this problem in low range only? Is there a grind while range shifting from low to high? High to low? If yes to any of these I would suspect the sychronizer. If it grinds in both low and high range in all respective gears then I would assume there is an issue in the front section of the transmission. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37254-t2090-grinds/#findComment-262023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheeler73 Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Sound like a sychronizer. Seen the same complaint quite often. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37254-t2090-grinds/#findComment-262024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.E.D Posted October 4, 2014 Author Share Posted October 4, 2014 It only does it in low range...no grind while going to high range...and it does less when loaded...how much I'm I looking at for this kind of repair? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37254-t2090-grinds/#findComment-262025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.E.D Posted October 4, 2014 Author Share Posted October 4, 2014 Sometimes its grinding while in gear and it kicks it making the truck jump forward Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37254-t2090-grinds/#findComment-262026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scjpll1 Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 check the bolt on the output yolk if it is loose it will make it grind. I've had them back out several times and it goes away as long as you don't drive it to long with it loose.. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37254-t2090-grinds/#findComment-262028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.E.D Posted October 4, 2014 Author Share Posted October 4, 2014 It also whines considerably more during all the gears...i talked to the local trans shop and they say it might be something in the back end of the trans....The trans is the type which shifts Lo-1-2-3 Hi range 4-5-6-7-8. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37254-t2090-grinds/#findComment-262040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theakerstwo Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 No the problem is that in 1 2 3 and 5 gears the power goes thru the counter shafts. In 4th gear the main box is in direct.In direct it pulls straight thru the main box.That tells you the input gear has ground the teeth off of it and not pulling thru the counter shaft gears.Most cases is the trans has run out of lub and burned the drive gear which is input and the front gears on the countershafts gears.Has nothen to do with rear box. To check after finding no lub in the trans you can pull the large pto cover off of bottom and see the counter shaft front gears.There will also be teeth laying in the bottom of the main box. 2 Quote glenn akers Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37254-t2090-grinds/#findComment-262116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullhusk Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Don't trust the top cover! I have had this prob an I wound up breakin one of the main counter shaftes!! T2090 have big prob,with the top cover if it has not been updatedBULLHUSK 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37254-t2090-grinds/#findComment-262120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.E.D Posted October 6, 2014 Author Share Posted October 6, 2014 so what needs to be replaced or repaired ?....I know these trans are really strong but I have also heard they can be a pita..I have a lead on an eaton RTLO 14609B for a good price and would like to know if repairing the t2090 is going to be not worth it in the long run.....I would like to keep the truck all mack but business is business and one has to make wise decisions.... Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37254-t2090-grinds/#findComment-262215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theakerstwo Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 You will not know how much its going to cost till you open it up and find out what parts you need.Some times its cheaper to exchange for a factory rebuilt. Quote glenn akers Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37254-t2090-grinds/#findComment-262225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
turckster Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 so what needs to be replaced or repaired ?....I know these trans are really strong but I have also heard they can be a pita..I have a lead on an eaton RTLO 14609B for a good price and would like to know if repairing the t2090 is going to be not worth it in the long run.....I would like to keep the truck all mack but business is business and one has to make wise decisions....Does this issue happen in both low and high ranges-the 4th/8th gear is the only forward gear you have? If so then what theakerstwo posted is most likely the issue. If not, that all high range gears work just fine then the sychronizer could be the issue.If the sychronizer is the issue it can be repaired in chassis. I don't think its cheap though, I think just a sychro kit scares the heck out of $1,000, then you have to possibly replace the range piston/cyl. assly, low or high range gear/hub, range fork..... after all is said and done it could get quite expensive.If the front drive gear is toast then an exchange is the way I would go. After you figure gear replacement on main and countershaft gears plus other parts and labor you are equal to or surpass the cost of an exchange. Usually this type of failure is catastrophic.As far as the Eaton transmission, hopefully there are no issues with it, you'll have to have the correct bellhousing for a mack plus correct mount brackets. Correct shifter and the driveline lengthened or shortened plus a few other things I'm sure. I don't know how different the gear ratios are between the two. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37254-t2090-grinds/#findComment-262263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.E.D Posted October 6, 2014 Author Share Posted October 6, 2014 So pretty much im screwed 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37254-t2090-grinds/#findComment-262283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.E.D Posted October 6, 2014 Author Share Posted October 6, 2014 It only grinds in lo 1st 2nd and 3rd..High range is fine.....The Eaton is freshly rebuilt according to the seller....and only around 1500 with the mack bellhousing. .i did a trans change on my ch 427 like a year ago so I know how it all kinda works....just wondering how this 350 will do coupled with the Eaton and my 417 geats Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37254-t2090-grinds/#findComment-262284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theakerstwo Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 I will ask another question and will it pull in 1,2,3 in hi range?And how about 5th gear? Quote glenn akers Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37254-t2090-grinds/#findComment-262384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.E.D Posted October 7, 2014 Author Share Posted October 7, 2014 high range 1 2 3 is 5 6 7 correct ? if yes , then all gears work when I flip the range selector up ..its just the 4 low range gears (lo 1 2 3 ) that grind while truck is in gear......Now what do you guys think about a t2080 trans ? found one at a good price and would consider swapping them...I drive mostly in the city below 55 mph..how would I be affected with this change? I have 417 rears Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37254-t2090-grinds/#findComment-262416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.E.D Posted October 17, 2014 Author Share Posted October 17, 2014 Thought I would give an update....swapped over to an eaton fuller trans and I'm back on the road....runs like a champ 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37254-t2090-grinds/#findComment-263537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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