gearhead204 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 the first Mack that I drove for any length of time was a 86 valueliner e-6 350 12 sp. 3 axle dump we also had 2-87 rd 688's 2-88 rd 688's a 88 e-9 500 superliner any ways my question was where did the valueliner fit in I remember it had a different hood and 1/4 fenders with saddle mounted fuel tanks but other than that was the same as the rd's. just trying to figure out why they built the truck when it wasn't mechanically different from the rd. series Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37306-valueliner-what-was-its-purpose/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 2stacksuperdog Posted October 9, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2014 Usually more aluminum components and was suppose to be a "west coast" truck i believe 3 Quote Matt Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37306-valueliner-what-was-its-purpose/#findComment-262626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Horse Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Usually more aluminum components and was suppose to be a "west coast" truck i believeI do believe Matt you are correct. Intended for the bulk hauling industry. I think the early ones were built in California (Hayward) when that plant was functioning. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37306-valueliner-what-was-its-purpose/#findComment-262628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearhead204 Posted October 9, 2014 Author Share Posted October 9, 2014 I thought aluminum components on a Mack were the mirrors, fuel tanks batt.box lids and trans. cases! There were other options? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37306-valueliner-what-was-its-purpose/#findComment-262638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackdaddy Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Here is the original Australian verson. Why would they call this a Valueliner when it was so different than the American version? 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37306-valueliner-what-was-its-purpose/#findComment-262640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearhead204 Posted October 9, 2014 Author Share Posted October 9, 2014 I still want to see that thing in person be sure to post if its ever in wa. or northern or. DO you know if all Aussie valueliners were setback front axles? or could you get them either way? 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37306-valueliner-what-was-its-purpose/#findComment-262641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve p Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 all set back front axles Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37306-valueliner-what-was-its-purpose/#findComment-262648 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrsmackpaul Posted October 9, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2014 Mate Aussie value liners all had set back front axles when they came out , around the time we started making "B" trains or as they are called here "B doubles" to try and get more weight over the front axle and reduce turning circle which was one of the requirments for B doubles the front axle weight laws changed around the time of release .Some people love them some love the standard R models better as the ride is a lot smoother. Valueliners out here were used for just about everything GCW up to 115 tons for road train use 350 hp maxidynes which might sound like heaps by US standards but at the time roadtrains had to geared 85km/h around 55 mph 5.73 was common gearing with 12 speed OD (they still have 90 km/h limit now) then some time in the 90's they put a sloping bonnet on and you could get the with E9 400 hp I dont know weather the 500 hp was ever standard in the ValuelinerI dont no what its like in US but out here on roadtrain work in a R model the floors get that hot you cant let any part of your skin touch the bottom of the cab steel as it will burn reel quick so I think they limited Aussie Valueliners to the 400hp out of the factory I think most now that have been rebuilt would be done as 500 hp or moreI think the superliners were the only trucks that went over 400hp out of the factory for the heat reason alone as there bonnet is a lot bigger a lot of operators would lift the cabs 3 inches which helped a lot with heatMost truck drivers back in the day wore thongs shorts and singlets to cope with the and by thong I dont mean G strings a thong in Australia is I think what you blokes call flip flops or some such thing I know I have gone to hop out of the truck on hot days and the center bit of the thong has let go when Im standing on the fuel tank and I've ended ass up on the ground going WTF and then thinking I hope no one saw that !! and more than once hearing some smart ass comment like "ENJOY YA TRIP" lolI stand to be corrected on all of this Paulmurranji you bet me to it I was still typing with two real slow fingers lol 5 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37306-valueliner-what-was-its-purpose/#findComment-262649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackdaddy Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 The 90 Valueliner I have came from the factory with 500hp, 18spd.The American Valueliner also had straight aluminum rails.........I believe? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37306-valueliner-what-was-its-purpose/#findComment-262680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Superdog Posted October 9, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2014 The Valueliner here was simply the RL/RS600 renamed when the Superliner replaced the RL/RS700 in '78. I guess they figured they needed to give the RL/RS600 a "nickname" to fit in with the Cruiseliner and Superliner. As far as I know,you could get either aluminum or steel frame until they ended production in Macungie in '87 or '88. 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37306-valueliner-what-was-its-purpose/#findComment-262703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtymilkman Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Valueliners were the light weight trucks. Aluminum bellhousing, hubs, air tanks, fuel tanks etc. Frame you could get either way. We had a '81 valueliner and a '82 R model spec'd identical, the valueliner was over 1000 pounds lighter. They also had the Hayward grille. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37306-valueliner-what-was-its-purpose/#findComment-262755 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearhead204 Posted October 10, 2014 Author Share Posted October 10, 2014 thanks for all the reply's I was just curious, as to why they were building both models, I guess I was driving a heavy weight valueliner ( just not the aussie heavy weight) Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37306-valueliner-what-was-its-purpose/#findComment-262760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldogmack58 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 FOUND THIS ON F@$KBOOK! LOOKED OUTTA WHACK TO ME! MICK 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37306-valueliner-what-was-its-purpose/#findComment-262817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackdog2 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 It was built to increase the pay load so it was a light weigh aluminum trans carriers front axles fuel tanks frames hubs Cheveron Shell oil Exon Mobil and other gas company's with 6V92 try to buy parts . 1 Quote Ed Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37306-valueliner-what-was-its-purpose/#findComment-262818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 10409319_653695544744018_4551193261410007255_n.jpgFOUND THIS ON F@$KBOOK! LOOKED OUTTA WHACK TO ME! MICK of course it looks out of whack some clown has put the steering wheel on the wrong side whoever did that in the factory needs a good kick in the ass Paul 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37306-valueliner-what-was-its-purpose/#findComment-262819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldogmack58 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 DEFINITELY NOT BUILT FOR DUMP WORK THEN! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37306-valueliner-what-was-its-purpose/#findComment-262820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldogmack58 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 of course it looks out of whack some clown has put the steering wheel on the wrong side whoever did that in the factory needs a good kick in the ass PaulMORNING PAUL Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37306-valueliner-what-was-its-purpose/#findComment-262821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearhead204 Posted October 10, 2014 Author Share Posted October 10, 2014 naw we just need to turn the picture upside down! your looking at it all wrong LOL 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37306-valueliner-what-was-its-purpose/#findComment-262822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldogmack58 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 naw we just need to turn the picture upside down! your looking at it all wrong LOL Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37306-valueliner-what-was-its-purpose/#findComment-262829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatcity Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 R600-is F@$KBOOK the same as facef#*k? Quote Success is only a stones throw away.................................................................for a Palestinian Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37306-valueliner-what-was-its-purpose/#findComment-262838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldogmack58 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 R600-is F@$KBOOK the same as facef#*k?I'D SAY SO! I CAN'T STAND IT BUT THERE IS SOME GOOD SHIT ON THERE, SOMETIMES! THE PROBLEM WITH F---BOOK IS PEOPLE JUST CAN'T USE IT THE RIGHT WAY, I'VE ENDED UP WITH FRIENDS I'VE NEVER HEARD OF OR MET, JUST SHIT'S ME. MICK 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37306-valueliner-what-was-its-purpose/#findComment-262841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldogmack58 Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 IF YA CONVERSE WITH THE RIGHT PEOPLE ON F---BOOK YA MIGHT GET A F--EF--K 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37306-valueliner-what-was-its-purpose/#findComment-262854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 85snowdog Posted October 13, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2014 This is the first 5 pages of the R series operator's handbook.I thought some might find it interesting, and it helps reinforce the earlier post about the lighter weight RL / RS 5 Quote Keith Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37306-valueliner-what-was-its-purpose/#findComment-263159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldogmack58 Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 This is the first 5 pages of the R series operator's handbook.I thought some might find it interesting, and it helps reinforce the earlier post about the lighter weight RL / RSR model handbook.jpegR model handbook 1.jpegR model handbook 2.jpegWELL THERE YA GO! I ALWAYS THOUGHT THE RS/RL TRUCKS WERE HIGHWAY, THE R600/700 WERE HIGHWAY/HEAVY DUTY AND THE RD/DM WERE HEAVY DUTY. MY BAD!!! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37306-valueliner-what-was-its-purpose/#findComment-263565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldogmack58 Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 SO WHAT'S THIS THEN? 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37306-valueliner-what-was-its-purpose/#findComment-263568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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