Popular Post PeterMack Posted November 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 27, 2014 I saw this article in an industry magazine the other day. Chicago has spent 1 million dollars on an electrictrash truck. What a monumental waste. That town has got so many problems its disgusting, but I guessspending a million on a trash truck will make everybody feel warm and fuzzy. The funny thing is the mayor,Rahm Emanuel just shut down two coal fired power plants on the south side of the city so I guess therewon't be electric to plug this truck in and re-charge it, maybe they should have invested in a truck that runs on sunshine and farts. 4 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37890-some-more-government-waste/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Wonder how much of a "cash incentive" his buddy Lord O gave him to go green . . .$$$$$$ 2 Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37890-some-more-government-waste/#findComment-268406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gearhead204 Posted November 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 27, 2014 lets see trash truck.......... trash creates methane gas, trash truck runs on a extension cord? why wouldn't you compress methane gas into cylinders and power the truck with that???..........oh that's right there's no way to tax it!! glad to know we are putting the planet first 4 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37890-some-more-government-waste/#findComment-268426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog13407 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 who is get the kickback when the volume price is HALF the price of the original truck?? wtf 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37890-some-more-government-waste/#findComment-268455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterMack Posted November 29, 2014 Author Share Posted November 29, 2014 All excellent points made on the subject guys. It looks like bunch of the money came from a Federal grant so that means everybody getsto pay for this debacle. It's only on a one year trial. What does that prove. I'd like to see it go through 6 Chicago winters and be a completerust bucket with corroded electrical connections and see if it holds up for a millions dollars. I haven't priced a new garbage truck but I wouldthink you could get four or five regular ones for that kind of money. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37890-some-more-government-waste/#findComment-268598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mack man 1973 Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 One thing I have learned common sense isn't common nowadays ! 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37890-some-more-government-waste/#findComment-268601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Dash Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 This info must've been leaked. I can't believe any politician would admit to investing $1 million of public money in an electric garbage truck.Then again, those of us that are sensible are probably outnumbered 3 to 1 by the treehuggers that are touching themselves while reading this. 1 Quote Jim Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37890-some-more-government-waste/#findComment-268610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 This info must've been leaked. I can't believe any politician would admit to investing $1 million of public money in an electric garbage truck.Then again, those of us that are sensible are probably outnumbered 3 to 1 by the treehuggers that are touching themselves while reading this.Just think Sondalara, Fiskers Electra-motive and a dozen more Green companies the got Federal grants and failed from the start.Much as I'm no a fan of the Town of Brookhaven, they power all the refuse trucks, light and medium trucks on methane from the land fill. The initial investment to make the fuel paid for it self in 3 years in fuel and maintenance savings. 1 Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37890-some-more-government-waste/#findComment-268622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2stacksuperdog Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 The state of CT built a 400 million "busway" to nowhere for just buses to drive on. Bought electric buses. One burned already and they didn't even open the busway yet. Wait a few years once it fails they'll probably open it up to cars. Said it was to boost state economy even though a Maasachusestts contractor did majority of the job with their people from Mass 2 Quote Matt Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37890-some-more-government-waste/#findComment-268623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Wait til the new job stimulus starts for our "new citizens". Let the pay offs and graft begin. Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37890-some-more-government-waste/#findComment-268627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack mhe9 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Mean while you can't run your ac at home cause there's to much demand on the grid.Everyone forgets electricity comes from a source of energy. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37890-some-more-government-waste/#findComment-268714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatcity Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Mean while you can't run your ac at home cause there's to much demand on the grid.Everyone forgets electricity comes from a source of energy.mine comes from the nuke plant about 12 miles awayalso have a massive solar thing about 15 miles west of here Quote Success is only a stones throw away.................................................................for a Palestinian Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37890-some-more-government-waste/#findComment-268720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 41chevy Posted November 30, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 30, 2014 I like to hear "I have an electric car, it is pollution free". Let's see: Oil or Natural gas to make electricity to charge it's batteries, more energy used to build it initially, more semi precious and precious metals used in it's electronics, batteries that need special handling for recycling because of the highly toxic make up and the best is by the time you purchase costs verses saving are equal. . .you need a new "green vehicle" The Nissan Leaf, Mitsubishi MiEV and the Chevy Volt on the market today with all the new technology and batteries...have the exact same range as the 1908 Fritchle Electric. Think after 106 years they could do better? 3 Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37890-some-more-government-waste/#findComment-268737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer52 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Electricity power plants are some of the largest polluters. Quote Ken PRR Country and Charter member of the "Mack Pack" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37890-some-more-government-waste/#findComment-268738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freightrain Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 I know many of the buses around here have LP on them. Is that any cheaper then diesel per mile? Or just "cleaner"? Quote Larry 1959 B61 Liv'n Large...................... Charter member of the "MACK PACK" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37890-some-more-government-waste/#findComment-268911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer52 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I know many of the buses around here have LP on them. Is that any cheaper then diesel per mile? Or just "cleaner"?I would say neither. It is the "feel good" "tree hugger" mentality. There are "incentive$ - read that as tax dollar$" to use fuels other than Diesel. LP engines have pollutants that are different than Diesel. BTU content of LP is lower than Diesel so the engine burns more fuel to produce the same power. The cleanest engine IMO is a Diesel with DPF and SCR. ZERO pollutants! In some areas the exhaust is cleaner than the intake air. Maybe the trucking companies should charge for cleaning the air.I am an engineeer and any technology should be proven by its own merits....not incentives, tax breaks, tax dollars, etc. 1 Quote Ken PRR Country and Charter member of the "Mack Pack" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37890-some-more-government-waste/#findComment-268927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freightrain Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Yup, I knew LP had less BTU, so figured it would take more to equal the power of diesel. It is ALWAYS about the all mighty dollar! Quote Larry 1959 B61 Liv'n Large...................... Charter member of the "MACK PACK" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37890-some-more-government-waste/#findComment-268984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Yup, I knew LP had less BTU, so figured it would take more to equal the power of diesel. It is ALWAYS about the all mighty dollar!Same as Ethanol cut gas. E-10 gives you 20% plus less BTU's. starts to degrade immediately after refining, extremely hydroscopic, decreases in mpg by 25 to 35% over real fuel. Plus side is you use more so the take on fuel tax is more. . .My Dodge gets 15 on real gas and 9 on E-10 Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37890-some-more-government-waste/#findComment-268997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 oh theres a surprize,,,what the hell,,,its free money they suck out of us...(IDIOTS)...bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37890-some-more-government-waste/#findComment-269142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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