tdozer Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 (edited) I have always been interested in older Mack's and caterpillar machines. Over the past few years, I have really been going to more and more shows in south jersey and eastern pa. I have also met and became fairly close friends with some local collectors. All of this combined has really given me an itch to have something of my own. About a year ago a friend of mine took me to meet a local collector, while talking to him I noticed a heavy B61 parked out back. I didn't ask much about it on that fateful day. I say fateful because I haven't been able to stop thinking about it since then. Over the next couple of months I noticed that it keeps moving around the yard, so I figured that it runs and it might be worth asking about. Well, it turns out to be a 1964 B613SX that runs beautifully. The original ENDT673 was replaced at some point with a 237. It still has the quad box in it. No rust between the frame rails and just some minor surface rust on the cab. The floor was replaced at some point too. I got in touch with the mack museum and they sent me the build sheet. It has a 15000lb front and the build sheet shows the rears as swd68 units. One person told me that they are 55k rears while another told me that they are 58k rears. I'm hoping someone here can clear this up for me. It sits on 11.00x24" rubber. It needs four tires replaced but could use all ten replaced. It could use a new compressor and needs the left side hood emblems. I finally decided to ask if he would sell it. He said that he didn't really want or need to sell it. A few weeks later I was helping him put together a Cat D2 when he says that he's been moving the mack around the yard and garage for 5 years and it might be another 5 years before he starts restoring it. As He has alot of projects ahead of the mack. He blurted out "give me 3 grand for it". I was almost speechless. His only conditions with that price is that I have it road worthy by spring and that he can drive it whenever he wants. Well, I think that's not too much to ask. He also has all new glass, a new drivers door, new right side hood emblems, new floor mat, headliner and firewall insulation. Is there anything else on the truck that I should look for before pulling the trigger? I feel like 3 grand is a steal of a deal. Now if I can just ok it with the wife(she thinks I'm crazy) Edited January 4, 2015 by tdozer 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38212-looking-at-buying-my-first-macki-bought-it/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
2stacksuperdog Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Welcome. 2 Quote Matt Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38212-looking-at-buying-my-first-macki-bought-it/#findComment-271841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlotpilot Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 24 inch hubs might be some what hard to find tires for 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38212-looking-at-buying-my-first-macki-bought-it/#findComment-271845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
slpwlker Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Welcome to the jungle 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38212-looking-at-buying-my-first-macki-bought-it/#findComment-271846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdog Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 buy it before he changes his mind 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38212-looking-at-buying-my-first-macki-bought-it/#findComment-271847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Sounds like a deal!One of my Mack books says SWD68 is 50,000 lbs. 1 Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38212-looking-at-buying-my-first-macki-bought-it/#findComment-271848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1957B61Vt Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Welcome!I looked for years to find one.My wife was talking to a friend of mine who located my truckShe made the deal on mine .I looked it over she paid the woman And I drove it home Hopefully she shakes her head and you buy the truckLike superdog says buy it before he changes his mind Steve 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38212-looking-at-buying-my-first-macki-bought-it/#findComment-271849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freightrain Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Welcome. Better buy it. That is a good deal no matter what. 1 Quote Larry 1959 B61 Liv'n Large...................... Charter member of the "MACK PACK" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38212-looking-at-buying-my-first-macki-bought-it/#findComment-271851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phase 1 Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Sounds good. Pull the trigger We need pictures 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38212-looking-at-buying-my-first-macki-bought-it/#findComment-271862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblin-Goblin Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 I'll echo what everyone else is saying: buy it NOW.I bought a similar truck just five weeks ago. For a hint at what you might be in store for, read my thread "Finally did it. I now own a Mack." The thread is a written record (with pictures) of everything I've had to do to the truck. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38212-looking-at-buying-my-first-macki-bought-it/#findComment-271864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 welcome aboard mate I dont know much in the world but I dont reckon you could go wrong with that deal if it as your describedPaul Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38212-looking-at-buying-my-first-macki-bought-it/#findComment-271866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdozer Posted December 26, 2014 Author Share Posted December 26, 2014 Thanks for the replies fellas! I'm heading down there this morning to finish the D2. While I'm there, ill snap a bunch of pics. I think it's a no brainier. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38212-looking-at-buying-my-first-macki-bought-it/#findComment-271868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_martell Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 3000$ sounds like a good deal if it runs.....no truck of that vintage won't need some work..... 1 Quote Lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.... Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38212-looking-at-buying-my-first-macki-bought-it/#findComment-271880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdogtrucker Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Welcome and congrats on the new truck(fingers crossed!)IN for the pics Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38212-looking-at-buying-my-first-macki-bought-it/#findComment-271886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Moody Jr Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Welcome to BMT and as everyone else say go for it. Also we love pictures Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38212-looking-at-buying-my-first-macki-bought-it/#findComment-271889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 ahrite,,,have a ball,,,and welcome aboard...bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38212-looking-at-buying-my-first-macki-bought-it/#findComment-271895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NY-B61 Posted December 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 27, 2014 Buy it! You'll end up putting $10k in to it over time regardless of the absence of PICTURES ( ) but it will be all yours and something you'll be proud to own. Refurbishment doesn't happen over night, nor do the expenses, so pace yourself accordingly. Buy it now if you're serious about owning a Mack. $3k for what you've described is a steal of a deal. Heck, new Hyundai's made of tin foil, spit, plastic and tofu (but with the all important CD player, deluxe floor mats and 7 year lifespan) start at $13k. Your Mack can last you forever. 4 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38212-looking-at-buying-my-first-macki-bought-it/#findComment-271961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b615rich Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 I know what you mean - once it's in your mind....I saw a chain drive Mack sitting upstate, and two years later found and bought one fifteen minutes from home. In case you needed any more encouragement, three grand sounds like a no brainer. The nice thing with the truck hobby is that if they drive and run there is always a following, and there are probably fifteen nice drivers or survivors for every true show truck. And while original is always best, no one looks down on replacement motors, etc., it's all about keeping them going whatever it takes. As said above, you can pace yourself on the work, it can get pricey. As for explaining to the family, it can be a little tough. A twelve thousand pound Harley, but a lot safer - and the price of fuel is finally coming down! The old truck guys are great, a really supportive community. Good luck! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38212-looking-at-buying-my-first-macki-bought-it/#findComment-271972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hicrop10 Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 I'm in Philly if you need any help.I also have some antique Caterpillars that i play around with.There is a spot down in the city that the guy has some B models for parts and he is really good with his prices.Waiting for some pictures if it's in eastern Pa it may be one of our old trucks or i may know who's it was by the paint if it was a dump.Good luck. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38212-looking-at-buying-my-first-macki-bought-it/#findComment-272000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tdozer Posted December 27, 2014 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 27, 2014 It was originally a dump truck. Tom Carty, a south jersey land clearing contractor bought it and made it his lowbed tractor. Here she is. 15 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38212-looking-at-buying-my-first-macki-bought-it/#findComment-272008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryS Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Very nice. I wouldn't even worry about the fender missing at that price. Go for it!!! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38212-looking-at-buying-my-first-macki-bought-it/#findComment-272010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdozer Posted December 27, 2014 Author Share Posted December 27, 2014 The fender isn't missing. It is off of the truck to get at the compressor. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38212-looking-at-buying-my-first-macki-bought-it/#findComment-272011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY-B61 Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Buy it, buy it, buy it! And thanks for the pictures! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38212-looking-at-buying-my-first-macki-bought-it/#findComment-272016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 wow that thing looks well taken care of,,,and good rubber or atleast usable..bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38212-looking-at-buying-my-first-macki-bought-it/#findComment-272032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 well if you dont buy it pretty quick some one else on google will now that you have put all the information up so might wanna make a move fairly quick smart as this has happened before Pay the owner with cash and get a receipt he cant change his mind and not bank the check if someone else turns up ten minutes after you leave and offers twice as much might also pay to get a time and date on the receipt just encase because I reckon at twice that price it would still be pretty good buying good luck with what ever you decide you just mighten want to dick around to muchPaul Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38212-looking-at-buying-my-first-macki-bought-it/#findComment-272038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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