james j neiweem Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 The White Road Boss thread brings up a point. Mack started the B series in 1953. About the same time the White 9000 small cab was started and then latter about the mid sixties the A car cab was started. Mack and White sales were pretty close at the time. I wonder how White 9000 small cab compared to Mack B's 50,000 plus. Also I wonder what the comparison was of R Model Sales to White A car cab and Road Boss series. I know the R model had a longer run than the 4000/9000 series. Discounting the RD's they may have been pretty close. Also Ford's Louiville line may have been close to White and Mack during the 70's and 80's. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38289-white-40009000/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
james j neiweem Posted January 2, 2015 Author Share Posted January 2, 2015 Put this in odds and ends instead of other truck makes. I guess I need a nap. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38289-white-40009000/#findComment-272904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 I don't have the answer but there sure were a lot of Whites out there. Seems like many shippers ran them.B's, R's and the White's had a long run but the C model Ford run, I believe, was 1957-1990. 33 years is a pretty good run! Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38289-white-40009000/#findComment-272906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
57 bcr Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Jim,I've asked the question,time & time again,how many Ford C-models were actually built? Nobody knows????? I thought I read a story at the end of their run,they had surpassed the AC in years of production,(which I wouldn't doubt). Need an expert to clarify! Anybody,ANYBODY,PLEASE!! Al Quote IF YOU BOUGHT IT, A TRUCK BROUGHT IT..AND WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH IT, A TRUCK WILL HAUL IT AWAY!!! Big John Trimble,WRVA Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38289-white-40009000/#findComment-272951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Horse Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Jim,I've asked the question,time & time again,how many Ford C-models were actually built? Nobody knows????? I thought I read a story at the end of their run,they had surpassed the AC in years of production,(which I wouldn't doubt). Need an expert to clarify! Anybody,ANYBODY,PLEASE!! AlI believe you are correct in terms of the Ford C series beating the AC. But didn't the R beat that counting the RD? If C was 33 years, first R was 65. Wasn't RD built until 2002 or 2003?? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38289-white-40009000/#findComment-272970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackdaddy Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 I think the U came out in 64 and in all rights it is an R model of sorts? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38289-white-40009000/#findComment-272977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phase 1 Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 I think the B model production was closer to 100,000.If I remember right the AC model, the one-time leader, was produced for 26 years. The Ford C was actually built for 34 years, 1957 through 1990.As far as the R, it seems it should be only the R and not the variations - but there are no rules, so who can say. If you go by the same basic styling, that will be different than sticking strictly with a model designation. The Ford F series was started in 1948, but it is a totally different truck today. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38289-white-40009000/#findComment-272979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Horse Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 I think the B model production was closer to 100,000.If I remember right the AC model, the one-time leader, was produced for 26 years. The Ford C was actually built for 34 years, 1957 through 1990.As far as the R, it seems it should be only the R and not the variations - but there are no rules, so who can say. If you go by the same basic styling, that will be different than sticking strictly with a model designation. The Ford F series was started in 1948, but it is a totally different truck today. To be specific, B production was 1953 to 1965, total production of 126,377 trucks.Another bit of Ford C Trivia, I read somewhere that the first C built, and the LAST one built were driven off the line by the same guy! Don't know if the guy was still on the payroll at Louisville or if they brought him in for the event from retirement. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38289-white-40009000/#findComment-273000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 a friend of mine has a mack that looks exactly like a ford,,,dont remember the model,,,but might be a C...bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38289-white-40009000/#findComment-273007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer52 Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 a friend of mine has a mack that looks exactly like a ford,,,dont remember the model,,,but might be a C...boblikely a N model...the only pics I could find were from Hhhhank's...so no show. Quote Ken PRR Country and Charter member of the "Mack Pack" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38289-white-40009000/#findComment-273010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Horse Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 The Mack version was the "N". Both Ford and Mack cabs were built by Budd. I do believe Ford designed the initial cab. Big difference, the Ford always had a full width bench seat and was designed for compact V blocks. The Mack N had a huge doghouse to accomodate the Mack 673 diesels as well as all the linkage associated with Mack two sticks. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38289-white-40009000/#findComment-273016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phase 1 Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 To be specific, B production was 1953 to 1965, total production of 126,377 trucks.Another bit of Ford C Trivia, I read somewhere that the first C built, and the LAST one built were driven off the line by the same guy! Don't know if the guy was still on the payroll at Louisville or if they brought him in for the event from retirement.The last year for B models was 1966. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38289-white-40009000/#findComment-273019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Dash Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 I think the U came out in 64 and in all rights it is an R model of sorts?Since the original post referred to cabs, I'd say that counts, but I think the U came out in '65. That's still 39 years until the last RD in '04.This is a bit of a stretch but the F model came out in '62 and shared many parts with the DM, R, U, etc. Quote Jim Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38289-white-40009000/#findComment-273022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james j neiweem Posted January 3, 2015 Author Share Posted January 3, 2015 If you look closely at the F model it is probably a Budd cab. I believe Mack built these in house. I wonder if Mack had an agreement with Budd on the F model. The Bottom panel of the F model might have come from the G and H model design. Just speculating. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38289-white-40009000/#findComment-273047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Horse Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 The last year for B models was 1966. I got my info from the "The Mack Bulldog, Hood Ornament". An 8 page booklet produced by Mack Museum. If you are correct, Museum is in error so if you have good info, drop them a note so they can correct their publication. (Info is at top of pg. 8) Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38289-white-40009000/#findComment-273191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Horse Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I got my info from the "The Mack Bulldog, Hood Ornament". An 8 page booklet produced by Mack Museum. If you are correct, Museum is in error so if you have good info, drop them a note so they can correct their publication. (Info is at top of pg. 8)PZ 1. The minute I hit the send key I had a thought and went to the bookcase and pulled out my copy of "Mack" by John Montville. You are correct according to this book as it lists all models by years of production. Many B series are listed through 1966.Guess I should send Museum a note Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38289-white-40009000/#findComment-273193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 PZ 1. The minute I hit the send key I had a thought and went to the bookcase and pulled out my copy of "Mack" by John Montville. You are correct according to this book as it lists all models by years of production. Many B series are listed through 1966.Guess I should send Museum a note i heard they built B,s thru 66,,just to get rid of alotta parts they still had...bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38289-white-40009000/#findComment-275155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 likely a N model...the only pics I could find were from Hhhhank's...so no show.just spotted this,,,thanks ..i punched up,,,mack with ford cab,,,and a buncha stuff came up...bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38289-white-40009000/#findComment-275156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog13407 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 last B rolled off the line in April 1966 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38289-white-40009000/#findComment-275165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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