68-f-model Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 (edited) I have been kicking around the idea of buying a small 2 or 3 axle pup end dump to pull behind my f-model. Mainly a pup because I can get some relatively cheap and I don't need a 35 ft end dump for my hobbies.But I have a few questions:-First can a pup even be pulled with the semi or can it only be used on a dolly?-Second am I going to run into weight/ bridge law issues with a pup?-Third what is the preferred type for dirt/gravel full frame, quarter frame or frameless?Something like the one pictured. Edited January 28, 2015 by 68-f-model Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38636-pup-end-dump-info/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_martell Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 There's a guy in Cambridge that does site work with tractor/pup like that....he hooks it to the fifth wheel.....looks odd with so many damn wheels in such a short span, but he can likely fill the box and still be legal.... Quote Lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.... Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38636-pup-end-dump-info/#findComment-276390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freightrain Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 We've got Quad dump trailers around Ohio. Almost as short as that with all the axles they can fit. East Manufacturing makes them, they are local to me.By the looks of the trailer you posted, I don't think the fifth wheel separates. Quote Larry 1959 B61 Liv'n Large...................... Charter member of the "MACK PACK" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38636-pup-end-dump-info/#findComment-276392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
68-f-model Posted January 28, 2015 Author Share Posted January 28, 2015 Are there pups that have non removable 5th wheel dollies? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38636-pup-end-dump-info/#findComment-276396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_martell Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 I'd imagine so....can't say I've ever seen one tho, closest I've come is wiggle wagons for roll off cans. Most pups around here are triaxle pintle setup for dumps..... Quote Lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.... Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38636-pup-end-dump-info/#findComment-276420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezrider Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 the one in the picture does not appear to be setup to be able to be hooked too a 5th wheel the dolly is basicly part of the trailer. could probably be cut off and have a kingpin welded on and landing gear installed. there are probably some out there that are setup with a 5th wheel converter dolly but might be harder to find. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38636-pup-end-dump-info/#findComment-276489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quickfarms Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 That trailer is a turntable trailer. The "dolly" is bolted to the trailer. If you consider doing a conversion you need to measure the frame height above the turntable to see if it would work. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38636-pup-end-dump-info/#findComment-276494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtymilkman Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 There are pups that you pull with a converter dolly and pups that have their own hitch. The converter dolly is simply the back tandem or single of a semi, cut off with a pinto hitch welded on. You can back that dolly under any semi trailer. The other pups have a turntable, that is more of a permanent deal. They are bolted together. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38636-pup-end-dump-info/#findComment-278368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
68-f-model Posted February 11, 2015 Author Share Posted February 11, 2015 I'll have to take a closer look at the pups I have in mind and see which type they are. Thanks Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38636-pup-end-dump-info/#findComment-278484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ditchkus Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 With the picture you posted of pup trailer it looks as there is no room for landing gear. Joe D. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38636-pup-end-dump-info/#findComment-278489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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