Monk31 Posted January 30, 2015 Author Share Posted January 30, 2015 (edited) Charged batteries, used torpedo heater, plugged in block heater, replaced fuel filters, added diesel 911, little bit of ether and still no luck truck will not start up opened up injectors a little there was some air in the engine there I was told truck was air locked. Would that keep the truck from starting and running getting a little frustrated on my this truck will not start. I havent opened the injectors on top of engine need to get an angled wrench. Also there was fuel getting to the injectors when tried to start with the injector opened a little. Edited January 30, 2015 by Monk31 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38638-cold-weather-start-up/page/2/#findComment-276749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiant2 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Are you sure the fuel shutoff is in Quote We the unwilling, Lead by the unqualified, are doing the impossible, for the ungrateful. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38638-cold-weather-start-up/page/2/#findComment-276752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk31 Posted January 30, 2015 Author Share Posted January 30, 2015 (edited) I dont know where or if there is one unfortunately in fuel shut off you talking about the red stop knob inside cab? if so yes it is in not engaged Edited January 30, 2015 by Monk31 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38638-cold-weather-start-up/page/2/#findComment-276756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiant2 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 if it is cranking fast enough then with a sniff it should want to fire. i woundnt be afraid of a couple of light sniffs to get it going. i have heard of using spray silicone instead of starting fluid cause it doesnt dry the cyl. walls. just try starting fluid Quote We the unwilling, Lead by the unqualified, are doing the impossible, for the ungrateful. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38638-cold-weather-start-up/page/2/#findComment-276768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer52 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Is white smoke coming out the exhaust when you crank the engine? If not, you are not getting fuel. Quote Ken PRR Country and Charter member of the "Mack Pack" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38638-cold-weather-start-up/page/2/#findComment-276775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk31 Posted January 31, 2015 Author Share Posted January 31, 2015 I don't think I'm getting white smoke what could be the problem? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38638-cold-weather-start-up/page/2/#findComment-276801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer52 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 If you are not getting white smoke then you are not getting any fuel to the injectors. As previously mentioned, check the fuel shutoff and also check the injection pump rack... moving (not stuck). Quote Ken PRR Country and Charter member of the "Mack Pack" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38638-cold-weather-start-up/page/2/#findComment-276802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk31 Posted January 31, 2015 Author Share Posted January 31, 2015 Ok I will do that where is the fuel shut off located and how could I tell if injectors are stuck may seem like stupid questions this is my first truck thanks Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38638-cold-weather-start-up/page/2/#findComment-276819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKS Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Does it have a hand primer pump on the inj pump,may have lost its prime from sitting or you have a pin hole air leak in one o fuel lines,try and pump it up if it has one. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38638-cold-weather-start-up/page/2/#findComment-276822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk31 Posted January 31, 2015 Author Share Posted January 31, 2015 Ok I will check what would the primer look like and where would it generally be located Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38638-cold-weather-start-up/page/2/#findComment-276825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKS Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Ok I will check what would the primer look like and where would it generally be locatedOn the side of the inj pump underneath where the inj lines enter the top of the pump, youll see a round knob,you turn it to unlock it than you can pump it up and down. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38638-cold-weather-start-up/page/2/#findComment-276834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk31 Posted January 31, 2015 Author Share Posted January 31, 2015 Ok thanks I will look for it and give it a try Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38638-cold-weather-start-up/page/2/#findComment-276858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomastractorsvc Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Can you post a picture of the side of the engine with the injector pump, maybe the cable is broken or cable stop and when can use the picture to pint you in the right direction Quote Robert"I reject your reality and substitute my own." Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38638-cold-weather-start-up/page/2/#findComment-276859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk31 Posted January 31, 2015 Author Share Posted January 31, 2015 Ok I will my truck is in Worcester and I live in Fall River when I go up this week I will Post pictures thank you Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38638-cold-weather-start-up/page/2/#findComment-276883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikesbucketlistmack Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I know it's impossible to do it now, but once Spring comes get yourself one of those Shelter Logic shelters to store the truck in if you can't afford or have access to a regular garage. I keep mine in there year round with the batteries on chargers. During the winter I put additive in the fuel and start it up once a month. This is the second year and it does a good job of keeping the weather and wind out. Just make sure you knock the snow off the roof to prevent it from collapsing. Check out northerntool.com to see their shelters large enough for your Mack. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38638-cold-weather-start-up/page/2/#findComment-276909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk31 Posted February 1, 2015 Author Share Posted February 1, 2015 I will check that out thanks Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38638-cold-weather-start-up/page/2/#findComment-276966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b615rich Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 This was a brutal winter so don't feel too bad. For next year the trick is turning over fast and fuel not jelling. Use a battery maintainer or trickle charger (they even make solar now for long distance from an outlet) and put some fuel additive in in the fall. They do make tank heaters, but haven't used them. A good block heater (check yours) or dipstick heater also helps the engine turn faster - thin oil. Starting fluid once it's turning fast enough should get it going. Mack put ether systems on so they won't hurt it as long as you do it once and don't try to run it on just starting fluid (you don't want to try to spray more once it starts or spray during extended cranking). Spray it good,sit a few seconds, start it. As for the salamander and torpedo heaters they work in an enclosed space but used too close I've seen damaged wires and rubber not to mention paint, etc. if you need to run and go in all weather you'll need a garage or to start it every few hours in sub zero. Big diesels are hard in winter, why the New England fire companies went to gas ten to twenty years after commercial truckers Good luck. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38638-cold-weather-start-up/page/2/#findComment-278163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk31 Posted February 11, 2015 Author Share Posted February 11, 2015 Well I have my answer broke down and brought truck to repair shop . The culprit was a bad transfer pump. A tow and $500 later truck will be up and running tomorrow. I would like to thank everyone who posted with ideas and suggestions it is greatly appreciated . Thanks again Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38638-cold-weather-start-up/page/2/#findComment-278547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmerrill0516 Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 So no fuel was the culprit. Frustrating I'm sure. Best of luck moving forward. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38638-cold-weather-start-up/page/2/#findComment-278548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKS Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Never forget the three basics,Fuel,Air,Compression..good luck Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38638-cold-weather-start-up/page/2/#findComment-278554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1MACK1 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Dam iam glad I live in a warm place So many hassles with the cold 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38638-cold-weather-start-up/page/2/#findComment-278560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Dam iam glad I live in a warm placeSo many hassles with the coldI hear what your saying there mate Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38638-cold-weather-start-up/page/2/#findComment-278618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Maikshilo Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 I hear what your saying there mateYes the cold weather can cause some troubleDM800 on Mt. Washington about an hour and fifteen from my farm. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38638-cold-weather-start-up/page/2/#findComment-278630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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