MACKS Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Now thanks to the nys dot I had to add a 20,000 lb steerable drop axle to compelment the 58,000 rears and the 20,000 front axle, the good news is now I can gross 79,000 lbs,the bad news is it cost me a whole bunch of money that sure could have used on something else.I had to give up the passenger fuel tank for a hyd tank and switch my rear mounted pto which i loved to a pain in the ass side mount pto pump combo that was quite picey,still have to get the right rims and tires,more money! 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38675-so-i-used-to-own-a-nice-10w-dump-but/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Didn't NYDOT tell us it would be a minimal cash out lay to meet their new regs. . . Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38675-so-i-used-to-own-a-nice-10w-dump-but/#findComment-276695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freightrain Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Cha ching. Looks good though.Loosing that pass. tank, likely cut your fill up distance in half! One 40 gal tank won't get you far. Quote Larry 1959 B61 Liv'n Large...................... Charter member of the "MACK PACK" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38675-so-i-used-to-own-a-nice-10w-dump-but/#findComment-276696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKS Posted January 30, 2015 Author Share Posted January 30, 2015 Cha ching. Looks good though. Loosing that pass. tank, likely cut your fill up distance in half! One 40 gal tank won't get you far.Its a 70 gallon tank,still have to fuel up every day but thats the way I been doing it,to much troube moveing the truck to the other side of the pump. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38675-so-i-used-to-own-a-nice-10w-dump-but/#findComment-276700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MACKS Posted January 30, 2015 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2015 Didn't NYDOT tell us it would be a minimal cash out lay to meet their new regs. . .Of course they did,lol but there not getting there hands on my grandfathered overweight permit and I know they want them! 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38675-so-i-used-to-own-a-nice-10w-dump-but/#findComment-276702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theakerstwo Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 In okla we have to have ten feet between the steer axle and the first drop axle to be legal.How much can you gross with that now? Quote glenn akers Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38675-so-i-used-to-own-a-nice-10w-dump-but/#findComment-276758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKS Posted January 30, 2015 Author Share Posted January 30, 2015 In okla we have to have ten feet between the steer axle and the first drop axle to be legal.How much can you gross with that now?Once I renew my permit in a couple months I can gross 79000 but I wont be loading it that heavy. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38675-so-i-used-to-own-a-nice-10w-dump-but/#findComment-276762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Of course they did,lol but there not getting there hands on my grandfathered overweight permit and I know they want them!NYDOT is now working on legislation for ALL farm vehicles AND towed farm equipment to have NYDOT numbers. A few of the questions asked at the public meeting in Hauppogue was does that mean you will need to have a CDL to operate it? Will they need NYS registration and HUT? The mouth piece said "we are studying those items". It's all $$$$$ Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38675-so-i-used-to-own-a-nice-10w-dump-but/#findComment-276764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmolitor Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Do you want to sell that rear mount pto? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38675-so-i-used-to-own-a-nice-10w-dump-but/#findComment-276920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezrider Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 looks good, looks like quite a bit of a squeeze getting everything in there but it looks like it came out good Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38675-so-i-used-to-own-a-nice-10w-dump-but/#findComment-276927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblin-Goblin Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 CT has more or less outlawed 10 wheel dump trucks by only allowing them to be registered for a maximum of 53,800lbs.Pretty disgusting if you ask me. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38675-so-i-used-to-own-a-nice-10w-dump-but/#findComment-276932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterMack Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 NYDOT is now working on legislation for ALL farm vehicles AND towed farm equipment to have NYDOT numbers. A few of the questions asked at the public meeting in Hauppogue was does that mean you will need to have a CDL to operate it? Will they need NYS registration and HUT? The mouth piece said "we are studying those items". It's all $$$$$ I have heard some rumblings about needing a CDL to operate farm equipment on the road in other states also. I don't know if any legislation has been passed yet but I know the farmers were screaming about it because many have kids or hired help under age 18 that would not beallowed to move the equipment. I heard they might have an exemption for family but not hired help. It's all ridiculous. For the trucking industrythat was supposedly "deregulated" back in the day the Feds, states, county's, and towns have sure found a way to re-regulate every thingthat is done out here under the name of safety. I call B.S. I agree, all about the $$$$$$$$ and how much they can squeeze from us. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38675-so-i-used-to-own-a-nice-10w-dump-but/#findComment-276939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog man Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Looks Good 79,000 Is what we can gross on a tri axle here in TN Too . Funny thing is here around Memphis being a tri state area . You can legally carry 24.5 tons of material w/ a tri axle In TN . BUT Across the state line in MS OR AR its only like 15 tons of material. w/ a Tandem or Tri axle either one . But back in the day We worked around the TN/MS Stateline around Olive Branch & Southaven,MS w/ a Tandem & i wouldnt be surprised if myself,the old man & crew wasnt grossing 79,000 w/ a tandem the way we loaded the trucks . We rarly crossed the river into AR W/ Our Trucks . 1 Quote You Cant Fix Stupid. But You Can Numb It With A Sledgehammer. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38675-so-i-used-to-own-a-nice-10w-dump-but/#findComment-276941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 41chevy Posted February 1, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2015 I have heard some rumblings about needing a CDL to operate farm equipment on the road in other states also. I don't know if any legislation has been passed yet but I know the farmers were screaming about it because many have kids or hired help under age 18 that would not beallowed to move the equipment. I heard they might have an exemption for family but not hired help. It's all ridiculous. For the trucking industrythat was supposedly "deregulated" back in the day the Feds, states, county's, and towns have sure found a way to re-regulate every thingthat is done out here under the name of safety. I call B.S. I agree, all about the $$$$$$$$ and how much they can squeeze from us.Yeah, it's New York State DOT doing it not the Feds. NYDOT will set minimum age at 21 to operate No Exceptions . If it passes there will not be any state, county, or town DOT inspectors coming on to my property with out a warrant or court order to inspect my equipment. No if's Ands or Buts! It is private property and I will consider them trespassers. "Release the Hounds" . Paul 4 Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38675-so-i-used-to-own-a-nice-10w-dump-but/#findComment-276970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearhead204 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 that's not bad out here its 48,000 gvw unless your wheel base is longer and the steer axle has bigger rubber we cant even do 79,000 on 5 axles unless the bridge length between axle groups is right Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38675-so-i-used-to-own-a-nice-10w-dump-but/#findComment-276993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezrider Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 nd is bridge law up to a maximum of 105,50062so a tandem dump with a 20k front would roughly be 54k maximum tri axle dump with a 20k front would be roughly 62k maxthese numbers of course would be subject to actual measurements as wellon 7 axles tractor trailer with a 12k front i can do 96k can legally haul 29.3 tons Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38675-so-i-used-to-own-a-nice-10w-dump-but/#findComment-277482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearhead204 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 I stopped by were I used to work and took a few pics of some of the fleet the solo trucks we call super 18's able to haul 18 yards of 5/8 crushed the truck and pup can gross 105,500 I forgot to check tonnage for solo 5 axle work but should be able to haul 15 yards legal......cant tell its paccar country can ya! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38675-so-i-used-to-own-a-nice-10w-dump-but/#findComment-277503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKS Posted February 5, 2015 Author Share Posted February 5, 2015 Wow those bodys must be 30 yd water level and they can only carry 18,thats nuts but its almost the same around here with certian permits like with a state wide permit that most trucks have,they can only carry 18 tons on a triaxle with an 18 ft body,crazy 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38675-so-i-used-to-own-a-nice-10w-dump-but/#findComment-277522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Only one that "wins" looks to be the tire guy. 2 Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38675-so-i-used-to-own-a-nice-10w-dump-but/#findComment-277523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb502 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Looks Good 79,000 Is what we can gross on a tri axle here in TN Too . Funny thing is here around Memphis being a tri state area . You can legally carry 24.5 tons of material w/ a tri axle In TN . BUT Across the state line in MS OR AR its only like 15 tons of material. w/ a Tandem or Tri axle either one . But back in the day We worked around the TN/MS Stateline around Olive Branch & Southaven,MS w/ a Tandem & i wouldnt be surprised if myself,the old man & crew wasnt grossing 79,000 w/ a tandem the way we loaded the trucks . We rarly crossed the river into AR W/ Our Trucks . Um, TN is 74000 on a triaxle, not 79000, and if your on the interstate they are starting to watch bridge law which puts most triaxles around 53000#. Of course this is around middle TN but the state shows 66000# on a tandem, 74000# on a triaxle and 80,000# on a quad or 5 axle truck and trailer. 1 Quote "Any Society that would give up a little LIBERTY to gain a little SECURITY will Deserve Neither and LOSE BOTH" -Benjamin Franklin"If your gonna be STUPID, you gotta be TOUGH" "You cant always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you get what you need" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38675-so-i-used-to-own-a-nice-10w-dump-but/#findComment-278083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb502 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Hey MACKS, where did you find a steer tag that has the tie rod and stabilizers on the front, thought they were always on the back of the axle. Quote "Any Society that would give up a little LIBERTY to gain a little SECURITY will Deserve Neither and LOSE BOTH" -Benjamin Franklin"If your gonna be STUPID, you gotta be TOUGH" "You cant always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you get what you need" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38675-so-i-used-to-own-a-nice-10w-dump-but/#findComment-278085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKS Posted February 8, 2015 Author Share Posted February 8, 2015 It's a Watson & chalin,not sure of model number,I don't know much about them so when i called my parts store this is what the ordered for me. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38675-so-i-used-to-own-a-nice-10w-dump-but/#findComment-278109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb502 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Ok, I've been looking at Hendrickson composilite lift axles, I like the way their tie rod and mounts are set up. I've never seen one with the steering stabilizers on the front, always on the back just looked odd. Good luck with the truck, I always wondered why you northeast guys had such short trucks anyway, seems you would fill the bed before you made gross and hauling by the ton would suck. Quote "Any Society that would give up a little LIBERTY to gain a little SECURITY will Deserve Neither and LOSE BOTH" -Benjamin Franklin"If your gonna be STUPID, you gotta be TOUGH" "You cant always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you get what you need" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38675-so-i-used-to-own-a-nice-10w-dump-but/#findComment-278168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog man Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Um, TN is 74000 on a triaxle, not 79000, and if your on the interstate they are starting to watch bridge law which puts most triaxles around 53000#. Of course this is around middle TN but the state shows 66000# on a tandem, 74000# on a triaxle and 80,000# on a quad or 5 axle truck and trailer.Thanks for the correction bud . guess i had a brain fart .. I Know some that will carry 79,000 W/ the tri axles here around the backwoods . & i herd by a buddy that has a tri axle Vulva of his own that is leased on w/ 1 of the big paving companies in Memphis they were starting to watch the bridge laws Here . & we are starting to see a few quads here around Memphis . 1 of the big paving companies has Quad axle Sterlings here .& When we had our tandems we worked in the backwoods of the Millington, & Tipton county area & my old man would load like a tri axle & heap dirt up as long as he was in the backwoods But if we were on the interstate or running the highways he would load the trucks no more than 19 to 20 tons of material make sure he was under 66k & have the load under the side boards & tarp pulled back . Quote You Cant Fix Stupid. But You Can Numb It With A Sledgehammer. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38675-so-i-used-to-own-a-nice-10w-dump-but/#findComment-278186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
slpwlker Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Last time out west I think those 5 axles can do 94 and Change.Mack I think Ar changed there weights to 70K on a tridem. But the tires and axles must match or be rated. Was talking to Jacob about that and he said it is raised now Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38675-so-i-used-to-own-a-nice-10w-dump-but/#findComment-278193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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