RowdyRebel Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Dropped my oil pan to retrieve the washer from the oil fill plug... Quote When approaching a 4-way stop, the vehicle with the biggest tires has the right of way! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38843-should-i-be-worried/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyRebel Posted February 8, 2015 Author Share Posted February 8, 2015 ...and found THIS! Quote When approaching a 4-way stop, the vehicle with the biggest tires has the right of way! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38843-should-i-be-worried/#findComment-278099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyRebel Posted February 8, 2015 Author Share Posted February 8, 2015 ...so does anybody know what it is, where it came from, and if I need to keep it shut down 'til it's fixed? No telling how long it's been in the pan. Quote When approaching a 4-way stop, the vehicle with the biggest tires has the right of way! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38843-should-i-be-worried/#findComment-278100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyRebel Posted February 8, 2015 Author Share Posted February 8, 2015 I'm hoping it is part of the turbo that blew a year (give or take) ago...first time pan has been dropped since then. Anybody know if that's a likely possibility or if it is something more serious? Quote When approaching a 4-way stop, the vehicle with the biggest tires has the right of way! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38843-should-i-be-worried/#findComment-278106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer52 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 At first glance it looks like a bronze bushing. What is the size? Could be from the turbo if small. Quote Ken PRR Country and Charter member of the "Mack Pack" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38843-should-i-be-worried/#findComment-278115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theakerstwo Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 What kind of metal is the top photo? Quote glenn akers Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38843-should-i-be-worried/#findComment-278117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyRebel Posted February 9, 2015 Author Share Posted February 9, 2015 The top photo is just the washer from the inside of the oil fill plug. It fell off an oil change ago, and I replaced the fill plug. The other one looks to be complete (as in all of the pieces are there)...maybe 3/4" inside diameter. Quote When approaching a 4-way stop, the vehicle with the biggest tires has the right of way! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38843-should-i-be-worried/#findComment-278122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theakerstwo Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 I do think its from the turbo because of the little holes in the out side of the ring.That looks like something that I have seen before but I have never seen the inside parts of a mack turbo.That is common for a cat turbo but is the parts there small enough to go thru the oil drain?There is not any thing like that in the compressor and nothing in the governor could get down there. Quote glenn akers Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38843-should-i-be-worried/#findComment-278142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keffer inc Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Likely not from the turbo I would think, the turbo drain pipe is quite small. But its hard to judge how big those parts are. What motor are talking about? I was thinking if it were on my E7. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38843-should-i-be-worried/#findComment-278144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyRebel Posted February 9, 2015 Author Share Posted February 9, 2015 E7-460...and they are small enough (I think) judging by the outside diameter of the drain and assuming it is the same thin wall stuff as the fill tube it drops straight down into... Quote When approaching a 4-way stop, the vehicle with the biggest tires has the right of way! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38843-should-i-be-worried/#findComment-278152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1958 F.W.D. Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 I say get an analysis done IMMEDIATELY, and then change the oil. If you have a can opener, open the filter and check for more metal.Run new oil for 3000 miles and then get an analysis of THAT done. 1 Quote TWO STROKES ARE FOR GARDEN TOOLS Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38843-should-i-be-worried/#findComment-278153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb502 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Looks like a turbo shaft bushing to me. Quote "Any Society that would give up a little LIBERTY to gain a little SECURITY will Deserve Neither and LOSE BOTH" -Benjamin Franklin"If your gonna be STUPID, you gotta be TOUGH" "You cant always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you get what you need" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38843-should-i-be-worried/#findComment-278176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lmackattack Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 How thick is that bearing? Maybe a photo with a nickel or penny next to it for a size reference?If its 3/4 od that is rather large for it to be a bad turbo bearing to slip thru the drain tube. Do all three fit together to make up a 360 degree bearing.? Can you pull the valve covers for a quick look? I dbout it would fit down the oil drain passage but it's an easy inspection before you go digging more into the bottom end. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38843-should-i-be-worried/#findComment-278178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyRebel Posted February 9, 2015 Author Share Posted February 9, 2015 ...not exactly a penny or a nickle, but it was what I have readily available: Quote When approaching a 4-way stop, the vehicle with the biggest tires has the right of way! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38843-should-i-be-worried/#findComment-278185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theakerstwo Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 That looks just like a cat turbo bushing with the oil holes. Quote glenn akers Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38843-should-i-be-worried/#findComment-278188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Definitely a bushing and appears to be missing a piece. Did your Turbo fail from oil starvation, heat or impeller ? If so that could explain the pieces and the wear marks on what appears to be the load end. Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38843-should-i-be-worried/#findComment-278190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lmackattack Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 http://www.google.com/search?q=turbo+exploded+view&safe=off&client=safari&hl=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=0C3YVLeYMsW1sATNu4C4DQ&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1024&bih=672#imgrc=URzJwn8LTuyoOM%253A%3BqdzdGbxfqOdhfM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.turbododgeparts.com%252Fassets%252Fimages%252Fturbo-exploded-view.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.turbododge.com%252Fforums%252Ff4%252Ff19%252F761665-smoke-coming-out-tail-pipe.html%3B600%3B849Hopefully this link works.It's a exploded view of a turbo and you can see the 2 bearings that look similar to yours. How your turbo failed can be a clue to how the bearing got down in your pan. I'm still surprised that it was able to make its way to the pan if this is what we are looking at. Most times the large parts of the turbo stay contained inside the center section. At best you get shavings and chunks but not the whole bearing? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38843-should-i-be-worried/#findComment-278194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Sure looks like it.You'd be surprised what an fall into and engine. My ex partner was spinning a 1/2" Craftsman combo wrench on his finger. Flew and went right down the oil filler tube on a 1962 Chevy V-8 followed by the soft clunk as it hit the bottom of the oil pan. Just got to align the planets right. Paul 2 Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38843-should-i-be-worried/#findComment-278204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keffer inc Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 oh okay, they are way smaller than I pictured, my bet is they did come from the old turbo, down the drain tube. I thought they looked way to big in the first picture. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38843-should-i-be-worried/#findComment-278210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyRebel Posted February 9, 2015 Author Share Posted February 9, 2015 I looked at the exploded view pic, and gotta agree...definitely looks like that turbo piece. Guess I can quit worrying about that. Thanks. Quote When approaching a 4-way stop, the vehicle with the biggest tires has the right of way! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38843-should-i-be-worried/#findComment-278225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theakerstwo Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Well we got that figured out.Ten minds are better than one unless they are wrong. Quote glenn akers Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38843-should-i-be-worried/#findComment-278288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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