kscarbel2 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Fleet Owner / February 16, 2015At the 2015 Technology & Maintenance Council (TMC) annual meeting this week, Cummins and Eaton announced plans to unveil a medium-duty version of their jointly-developed SmartAdvantage powertrain in July this year – linking a Cummins ISB 6.7-liter diesel with Eaton’s new Procision medium-duty automated manual transmission (AMT).Ryan Trzybinski said that SmartAdvantage combination should provide a fuel economy savings of 8% to 10% compared to a medium-duty powertrain featuring a torque-converter automatic transmission.“We recognize how much cost is associated with fuel, even with today’s low diesel prices,” noted Mike Taylor, global powertrain director for Cummins. “Some 30% of a typical commercial vehicles cost is associated directly with fuel expenses.”As a result, Taylor said Cummins and Eaton will “continue to look for both practical and innovative” ways to save fuel for commercial fleets, with their joint SmartAdvantage package “the shining example” of how to do that.“It’s helping us get to higher and higher levels of both fuel savings and vehicle performance,” he said. “By working together our combined [service] networks allow us to put more eyes and ears on the road, giving us both an opportunity for greater feedback.”Note: Sources say this will be a "dual clutch" AMT. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38977-medium-duty-smartadvantage-package-coming-in-july/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
james j neiweem Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Seems like ford is really missing out here by only using their in house 6.7 Mack and Volvo on the other hand are not onlymissing out on this eng/tran combo but a medium duty truck as well. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38977-medium-duty-smartadvantage-package-coming-in-july/#findComment-279610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamsterGrrrl Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 The DAF cabbed cabover that KW and Pete are selling looks suspiciously like the Volvo FL and it's Renault version, and comes with the ISB engine standard. If Volvo isn't still barred from selling mediums in the North American market due to the GM non-compete agreement, Volvo may be barred from selling the FL here due to terms of the "Club of Four" cab sharing agreement, as amended... Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38977-medium-duty-smartadvantage-package-coming-in-july/#findComment-279614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Horse Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Seems like ford is really missing out here by only using their in house 6.7 Mack and Volvo on the other hand are not onlymissing out on this eng/tran combo but a medium duty truck as well. JJN- Agree big time on Ford comment. No doubt they are hopeful that the inhouse powertrain will be very profitable and offer a very competitive package for the price buyer but I say they are missing too much of the market by not continuing to offer the ISB. OR-big "or"-, they have plans to offer the Ford Duratorque 6 at some point assuming they get it EPA compliant. And no doubt you can't go crazy with options but I think they are taking the narrow spec list to the extreme.Maybe my problem is I'm old and I remember the days of V-8 Cummins V-185/210, 555. Then again, they have a lot of 6.7 Power Strokes on the road so perhaps the class 6/7 version will be bullet proof-I hope! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38977-medium-duty-smartadvantage-package-coming-in-july/#findComment-279615 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted February 19, 2015 Author Share Posted February 19, 2015 The DAF cabbed cabover that KW and Pete are selling looks suspiciously like the Volvo FL and it's Renault version, and comes with the ISB engine standard. If Volvo isn't still barred from selling mediums in the North American market due to the GM non-compete agreement, Volvo may be barred from selling the FL here due to terms of the "Club of Four" cab sharing agreement, as amended...No non compete. After Volvo bought Mack, they were selling Renault medium Midlums rebadged as the Freedom series. Volvo simply doesn't know how to sell medium trucks in the US. Volvo packed the bags of its UD brand in the US market and evaporated as well.Not only are Mack dealers puzzled over why Volvo won't provide them with any medium trucks to sell, they also don't understand why Volvo won't offer the UD-developed D8K engine in the Granite MHD. It's rated at 250, 280 and 320hp, in lieu of the 345hp-rated Cummins ISL.The "Club of Four" referred to what Americans know as the old Mid-Liner, and Volvo F6 and F7. And there might be a few folks who know about the US market Magirus medium trucks.The "Club of Four" was a joint venture between Saviem (now Renault), DAF, Volvo and Magirus-Deutz.The current cab was developed by Renault and DAF in 1997, and is produced by Volvo in the former Renault Blainville-sur-Orne plant near Normandy, France. The DAF LF is assembled in the UK by Leyland (another old name from the past). Anyway, each brand gives the Midlum its own unique interior and exterior panels. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38977-medium-duty-smartadvantage-package-coming-in-july/#findComment-279707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadwayR Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Once upon a time, most Volvo dealers sold GM medium duty trucks. Nowadays, GM doesn't make any medium trucks and Volvo doesn't have any dealers, so I guess it's a wash. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38977-medium-duty-smartadvantage-package-coming-in-july/#findComment-280318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted February 23, 2015 Author Share Posted February 23, 2015 Once upon a time, most Volvo dealers sold GM medium duty trucks. Nowadays, GM doesn't make any medium trucks and Volvo doesn't have any dealers, so I guess it's a wash. And prior to that, Freightliner Corporation held Volvo's reins in America.http://www.bigmacktrucks.com/index.php?/topic/30397-when-freightliner-ran-volvo-in-america/ Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38977-medium-duty-smartadvantage-package-coming-in-july/#findComment-280338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Horse Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 And prior to that, Freightliner Corporation held Volvo's reins in America.http://www.bigmacktrucks.com/index.php?/topic/30397-when-freightliner-ran-volvo-in-america/Good "refresher"- forgot the timelines on the demise of GM class 8. I always felt the creation of WhiteGMC was a legal tactic to keep GM from getting sued by the GMC dealer network. In any case, no different than the Diamond T/Reo/White, Brockway/Mack, Ford/Sterling/Freightliner scenrios. Next one will be Mack/Volvo ...IMO 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/38977-medium-duty-smartadvantage-package-coming-in-july/#findComment-280348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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