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yeah,right. Maybe 10 years ago they woulda,not anymore,too old,obsolete.

Send a note to Don S at the Museum and ask for a copy of the build sheet. He will likely send you a PDF. Or just ask what engine was installed at the factory.

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Could be an EM-5 series 10 liter 250 or 290 h.p. Introduced in 1997.

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Not sure if most know this but there were some CH's built with L-10's for CF I believe as test units. (10 units built) If you run CH633 in the parts system you will find them. Never heard of RD's with Cummins.

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Not sure if most know this but there were some CH's built with L-10's for CF I believe as test units. (10 units built) If you run CH633 in the parts system you will find them. Never heard of RD's with Cummins.

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The L-10 isn't a Cummins, it's a direct injection MACK/ Renault venture. When Volvo took over it was dumped as far as I know..

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From Fleet Owner article in 1997 about the MACK / Renault L-10

http://fleetowner.com/mag/fleet_mack_unveils_liter

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The L-10 is a Cummins. It is a mechanical PT pump fed 10 liter displacement inline 6.

The M11 was it's replacement after the L-10E electronic version of the L-10 that didn't last very long. The M11 is an 11 liter inline 6 with electronicly controlled unit injectors.

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Personally I believe the seller has no idea about the truck.

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Yeah, L10 is a Cummins and the L10 led to the ISL, was used in lots of buses, and the L10/ISL and M11/ISM are different engines that were produced at the same time one didn't take over for the other. The Mack E5 had two different versions didn't it, an 8 liter and a 10 liter?

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The M11 was replaced by the ISM when the 1997 emissions regs came out. The base of those 2 engines are very similar. The L10/M11 and ISL are completely different engine platforms. In fact, you would be amazed at how cheap the ISL is when it comes to bottom end strength in comparison to the L or M series.

The ISL is a stroked out/reflashed version of the ISC 8.3L engine. Both were still available up until recently. I think the M2 Freightliner still offered both optional engines as of 2013. ISC used in mostly in vocational apps. ISL on city/highway use.

I See ISL block, rod and liner failures almost weekly in a municipal fleet.

I have seen some documentation call the engine in the CM422 an E5 which was an 8 liter. The engine available in the RD694 was a 10 liter E5. The engines were not produced at the same time and were quite different in design, but used the same engine classification for some reason.

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The ISC is a hard core little enmgine, actually all the C series Cummins engines from the mechanical 12 valve, 24 valve CAPS fuel system ISC on up to the Common rail ISC are just ridiculously reliable. Ive heard horror stories from the ISL, they got the cubes up to try to make a lightweight engine that was viable in baby 8 trucks but it was just pushed too hard. If I had to buy a fleet of medium duty trucks and could still get the CAPS system ISC or the first Common rail ISC there wouldnt even be a discussion about other choices. I dont know what Paccar uses for the PX-8 now (used to be a rebranded Cummins ISC) or if its still available but I had heard the C series was out of production in favor of the 6.7 liter with the 5.0 liter V8 taking the place of the ISB 5.9.

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My cousin has a couple of '94 Freightshakers, I believe they're FL 80's, triaxled out with 17' 24 yard Rogers beds with 8LL's and 8.3 Cummins engines. Sounded to me like a lot of truck for such a little motor. I've driven them, and don't get me wrong, they're hideous and I don't like them, but those little 6C Cummins will carry the mail.

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