Superdog Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 http://desmoines.craigslist.org/grd/4930884902.htmlAnyone ever heard of a L10 in a RD ???? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39281-cummins-powered-rd/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
2stacksuperdog Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 glider kit maybe Quote Matt Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39281-cummins-powered-rd/#findComment-282856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kansas farmer Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Maybe just doesn't know what he has. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39281-cummins-powered-rd/#findComment-282868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
storkmack Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Looks like it was a mixer chassis. I saw some R-models that were repo we're with wither 3176 or C-12 CATS. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39281-cummins-powered-rd/#findComment-282874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer52 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Mike,Try getting the VIN and have your dealer check the specs. Quote Ken PRR Country and Charter member of the "Mack Pack" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39281-cummins-powered-rd/#findComment-282891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdog Posted March 17, 2015 Author Share Posted March 17, 2015 Mike,Try getting the VIN and have your dealer check the specs.yeah,right. Maybe 10 years ago they woulda,not anymore,too old,obsolete. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39281-cummins-powered-rd/#findComment-282944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer52 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 yeah,right. Maybe 10 years ago they woulda,not anymore,too old,obsolete.Send a note to Don S at the Museum and ask for a copy of the build sheet. He will likely send you a PDF. Or just ask what engine was installed at the factory. 2 Quote Ken PRR Country and Charter member of the "Mack Pack" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39281-cummins-powered-rd/#findComment-282949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Could be an EM-5 series 10 liter 250 or 290 h.p. Introduced in 1997. Paul Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39281-cummins-powered-rd/#findComment-282952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbigrig Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Not sure if most know this but there were some CH's built with L-10's for CF I believe as test units. (10 units built) If you run CH633 in the parts system you will find them. Never heard of RD's with Cummins. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39281-cummins-powered-rd/#findComment-282953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbigrig Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Not sure if most know this but there were some CH's built with L-10's for CF I believe as test units. (10 units built) If you run CH633 in the parts system you will find them. Never heard of RD's with Cummins. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39281-cummins-powered-rd/#findComment-282954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 The L-10 isn't a Cummins, it's a direct injection MACK/ Renault venture. When Volvo took over it was dumped as far as I know.. Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39281-cummins-powered-rd/#findComment-282956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theakerstwo Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 But cummins do have a L10 which is not nothen to do with mack.The M11 took its place. 1 Quote glenn akers Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39281-cummins-powered-rd/#findComment-282959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 From Fleet Owner article in 1997 about the MACK / Renault L-10http://fleetowner.com/mag/fleet_mack_unveils_liter Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39281-cummins-powered-rd/#findComment-282969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbigrig Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 The L-10 is a Cummins. It is a mechanical PT pump fed 10 liter displacement inline 6. The M11 was it's replacement after the L-10E electronic version of the L-10 that didn't last very long. The M11 is an 11 liter inline 6 with electronicly controlled unit injectors. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39281-cummins-powered-rd/#findComment-282975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bbigrig Posted March 18, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 18, 2015 The article you are quoting is about the E-5 Renault/Mack engine. It was a 10 liter displacement but didn't bare the name "L-10" which Cummins did use that name as it's model. 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39281-cummins-powered-rd/#findComment-282976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer52 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Cummins L10 (actually 9L displacement) was introduced in 1982. The L10 was replaced by the M11 in 1994. The Mack E7 engine (12L) had a similar design to the L10 with mid-stop liners. Quote Ken PRR Country and Charter member of the "Mack Pack" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39281-cummins-powered-rd/#findComment-283000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Personally I believe the seller has no idea about the truck. 1 Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39281-cummins-powered-rd/#findComment-283037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb502 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Yeah, L10 is a Cummins and the L10 led to the ISL, was used in lots of buses, and the L10/ISL and M11/ISM are different engines that were produced at the same time one didn't take over for the other. The Mack E5 had two different versions didn't it, an 8 liter and a 10 liter? Quote "Any Society that would give up a little LIBERTY to gain a little SECURITY will Deserve Neither and LOSE BOTH" -Benjamin Franklin"If your gonna be STUPID, you gotta be TOUGH" "You cant always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you get what you need" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39281-cummins-powered-rd/#findComment-284212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbigrig Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 The M11 was replaced by the ISM when the 1997 emissions regs came out. The base of those 2 engines are very similar. The L10/M11 and ISL are completely different engine platforms. In fact, you would be amazed at how cheap the ISL is when it comes to bottom end strength in comparison to the L or M series.The ISL is a stroked out/reflashed version of the ISC 8.3L engine. Both were still available up until recently. I think the M2 Freightliner still offered both optional engines as of 2013. ISC used in mostly in vocational apps. ISL on city/highway use.I See ISL block, rod and liner failures almost weekly in a municipal fleet.I have seen some documentation call the engine in the CM422 an E5 which was an 8 liter. The engine available in the RD694 was a 10 liter E5. The engines were not produced at the same time and were quite different in design, but used the same engine classification for some reason. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39281-cummins-powered-rd/#findComment-284233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theakerstwo Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 The ISL came from the 8.3 C model design.Just more cubit inches.It also could tale a jake brake.I know one trhing that they have good power for a med duty truck. Quote glenn akers Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39281-cummins-powered-rd/#findComment-284235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb502 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 The ISC is a hard core little enmgine, actually all the C series Cummins engines from the mechanical 12 valve, 24 valve CAPS fuel system ISC on up to the Common rail ISC are just ridiculously reliable. Ive heard horror stories from the ISL, they got the cubes up to try to make a lightweight engine that was viable in baby 8 trucks but it was just pushed too hard. If I had to buy a fleet of medium duty trucks and could still get the CAPS system ISC or the first Common rail ISC there wouldnt even be a discussion about other choices. I dont know what Paccar uses for the PX-8 now (used to be a rebranded Cummins ISC) or if its still available but I had heard the C series was out of production in favor of the 6.7 liter with the 5.0 liter V8 taking the place of the ISB 5.9. Quote "Any Society that would give up a little LIBERTY to gain a little SECURITY will Deserve Neither and LOSE BOTH" -Benjamin Franklin"If your gonna be STUPID, you gotta be TOUGH" "You cant always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you get what you need" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39281-cummins-powered-rd/#findComment-284669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakebrake86 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 My cousin has a couple of '94 Freightshakers, I believe they're FL 80's, triaxled out with 17' 24 yard Rogers beds with 8LL's and 8.3 Cummins engines. Sounded to me like a lot of truck for such a little motor. I've driven them, and don't get me wrong, they're hideous and I don't like them, but those little 6C Cummins will carry the mail. 1 Quote Jake Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39281-cummins-powered-rd/#findComment-284689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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