kfguy Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Hello, I own a 1986 Mack{Renault} cs200 midliner.. I am having a terrible time locating the part number for the Right Rear{ passenger} brake chamber.. Wondering if anyone has any experience with these things and can provide any info? I called my local Mack dealer and got the usual== snickered at and told to buy a new truck, followed by an astronomical price quote , followed by a refusal to give a part number so I could source elsewhere.... Thanks for any help in advance.. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39756-need-mack-midliner-brake-help/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
1958 F.W.D. Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Take old chamber, lay on counter of any heavy truck parts shop and say "One please."I guarantee it's not a Mack part. 1 Quote TWO STROKES ARE FOR GARDEN TOOLS Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39756-need-mack-midliner-brake-help/#findComment-287433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PANELIZER Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Are they full air or air over hydraulic rear brakes? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39756-need-mack-midliner-brake-help/#findComment-287548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladislav Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 They're probably Renault or Volvo parts.You can try interweb search for any European Renault parts trader and show them pics of the stuff together with the VIN.Not shure they will be too likely to dig out an old truck parts lists and than provide send owerseas. But that might be a way if no others.I use to do such deals on the constant basis although it takes time and a lot of attention.Vlad Quote Никогда не бывает слишком много грузовиков! leversole 11.2012 Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39756-need-mack-midliner-brake-help/#findComment-287549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbigrig Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 A CS/MS of that vintage in a 200 series model should have front hydralic disc brakes and rear "S" cam air brakes. On a 200 series Midliners used a type 24/24 brake chamber 300 series used a type 30/30 chamber. Any north American chamber should fit. Be cautious as the air lines to the chamber are metric and an adapter from metric to standard will be at the chamber. The chamber is a standard thread chamber. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39756-need-mack-midliner-brake-help/#findComment-287634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfguy Posted April 24, 2015 Author Share Posted April 24, 2015 Thanks for the help thusfar.. more digging today provided that the unit is not a standard 24/24 chamber.. The unit is a lockheed {england} chamber air/hydraulic.. mack part number is [old} =4103 5000 243 790.. NEW Mack number is 8511 5412.. however, these numbers dont correlate to any aftermarket part.. in fact, the numbers dont correlate to anything as a cross reference to lockheed.. Mack has a way of NOT wanting you to be able to easily find parts... Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39756-need-mack-midliner-brake-help/#findComment-287668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PANELIZER Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Hard to believe an air over hydraulic brake chamber for a Midliner is over $1,300.00 isn't it? Open the link below to the Euclid catalog and look at page 77. All the parts are listed with Euclid part numbers. Not sure if they are still available since the takeover by Meritor but it's worth a shot. http://truckpartsetc.com/sales/PDFs/Arvin%20Meritor%20%28Euclid%29/Meritor_ImportBrakeParts.pdf Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39756-need-mack-midliner-brake-help/#findComment-287669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Locate a dealer for WABCO products. WABCO have made lots of brake chambers for Renault, Mercedes-Benz and other European based truck products. Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39756-need-mack-midliner-brake-help/#findComment-287738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbigrig Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 You've got a really old 200 series full hydraulic with air assist. Ugh. Yes, very few of those left and I can see that one being an issue. I believe it was 86 where they discontinued the full juice brakes. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39756-need-mack-midliner-brake-help/#findComment-288094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfguy Posted April 28, 2015 Author Share Posted April 28, 2015 Yes, very ugly!.... yes, in 1987 they went to full air brakes.. I did locate a chamber on ebay with the help of the Euclid parts diagram{ thanks to that poster} and a lot of phone calls.. I hope the chamber itself is not specific to side though. It seemed like the diagram indicated that only the pedestal assembly was specific for right/left side.. Ihave my fingers crossed because finding one WAS finding a needle in a haystack! 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39756-need-mack-midliner-brake-help/#findComment-288163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick harper Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 They are expensive. Mack does have stock. Ill sell you an 85115412 for 940.00 bus the freight. If you want it call me at 918.697.8473. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39756-need-mack-midliner-brake-help/#findComment-288165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sldlightdesign Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 i have an 1988 ms300. the brakes system needs help. i was going to take to a mechanic but truck will not hold air in the system.. how can i trouble shoot air brakes to find parts and relace them. ??? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39756-need-mack-midliner-brake-help/#findComment-288919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Can the hraudraulic portion be converted to full air brakes Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39756-need-mack-midliner-brake-help/#findComment-365189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary W. Ford Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 I have a 1994 200CS 200 Mac Renault and can't find the brake reservior?? Any help out there?? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39756-need-mack-midliner-brake-help/#findComment-472204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary W. Ford Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Hoping for some help on this question. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39756-need-mack-midliner-brake-help/#findComment-472207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polarhound Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 (edited) On 4/8/2021 at 9:40 AM, Gary W. Ford said: I have a 1994 200CS 200 Mac Renault and can't find the brake reservior?? Any help out there?? Assuming you are talking about a hydraulic master cylinder/reservoir assembly. There are several options, would need to know the last 6 of the VIN and whether you have disc or drum brakes. Edited April 12, 2021 by Polarhound Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39756-need-mack-midliner-brake-help/#findComment-472443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie7397 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 On 4/12/2021 at 9:35 AM, Polarhound said: Assuming you are talking about a hydraulic master cylinder/reservoir assembly. There are several options, would need to know the last 6 of the VIN and whether you have disc or drum brakes. I have an 82 ms200 serial# 015070 also looking for reservoir/master cylinder any suggestions? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39756-need-mack-midliner-brake-help/#findComment-489546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 On 4/12/2021 at 11:35 AM, Polarhound said: Assuming you are talking about a hydraulic master cylinder/reservoir assembly. There are several options, would need to know the last 6 of the VIN and whether you have disc or drum brakes. Where can I find this master cylinder\reservoir assembly Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39756-need-mack-midliner-brake-help/#findComment-490395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onyx610 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 Sounds like you should have bought one of those midliner books JoeyMack told you about. He has them now… 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39756-need-mack-midliner-brake-help/#findComment-490405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 just 1,, but its the right one... I will share pics if I have the correct info... jojo 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39756-need-mack-midliner-brake-help/#findComment-490406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onyx610 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 Neo you should pry start your own thread for all your questions. You have resurrected about 6 topics back from the dead. If you start your own, you can get all your info in one place and also be notified when someone gives you more info. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39756-need-mack-midliner-brake-help/#findComment-490407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 $75.00 for the real book... easy decision... I just bought 2 more books for what i work on.. less than $30.00 each... easy breezy.... 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39756-need-mack-midliner-brake-help/#findComment-490408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onyx610 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 Just now, Joey Mack said: $75.00 for the real book... easy decision... I just bought 2 more books for what i work on.. less than $30.00 each... easy breezy.... Yea honestly it just makes sense. That’s what I need to start doing, is just buying them. Once they are gone they are gone. That’s when they really become worth money especially if someone needs the info. Knowledge/information like that is truly priceless though. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39756-need-mack-midliner-brake-help/#findComment-490409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 yes sir... I have 2 spare sets of 200 series tranny books and an extra set of 300 series books, plus Mack rears and drive shaft books and failure analysus books and so no.. I may sell 1 of each set, as a set... jojo Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39756-need-mack-midliner-brake-help/#findComment-490410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onyx610 Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, Joey Mack said: yes sir... I have 2 spare sets of 200 series tranny books and an extra set of 300 series books, plus Mack rears and drive shaft books and failure analysus books and so no.. I may sell 1 of each set, as a set... jojo 🤔 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39756-need-mack-midliner-brake-help/#findComment-490412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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