Popular Post Guy Edelist Posted April 29, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2015 Here is the 8Th DM800 that was produced, 1966 model. it's a DM867SX, with RTO15 gerabox, i.e .5 gears, hi lo and extra 5 in deep reduction engine is Cummins NTC335. This truck owned and operated by MIFALEY TOVALA in Israel caring Potash from dead sea in the 200 KM route threw desert rocking hi temperatures, in road train combination.The first trailer takes 35 tons, 2nd takes 25 ton, GCVW is 90 tons. until mid '70 there was no air condition, great experience for the driver. nevertheless drivers took their families sometimes 4 at the cabin (!) to long trips to Eilat and sharem el sheich in Sinai, Actually, this is the 4th DM800 in 'Mifaley Tovala', their 1st DM800 was the 4th in the world. Engineer Avraham Halivni (D.) had big inputs on the DM800 design. DM800 opened new era in Mifaley Tovala, about 190 unit of DM800 worked in Mifaley Tovala well into the '80. DM actually build Israel from 1966 till today, some 1975 are working as tippers. 12 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39849-the-8th-dm800-in-the-world/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Dash Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 So this is the 8th of all DM800's and not DM867's? Pretty neat either way. It's also interesting how quickly they became popular in the model's infancy. Quote Jim Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39849-the-8th-dm800-in-the-world/#findComment-288236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Pretty cool photo's and story to go with it what or who is Mifaley Tovala I tried to translate it but it still no good or maybe Im not just doing it right Paul Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39849-the-8th-dm800-in-the-world/#findComment-288241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 The John Montville Mack book indicates the first DM 867 was built in 1971.What is the full VIN for the beast pictured? 1 Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39849-the-8th-dm800-in-the-world/#findComment-288244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brocky Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 PaulFrom the context I would say it is the name of the trucking company? Quote Brocky Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39849-the-8th-dm800-in-the-world/#findComment-288254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Pretty cool photo's and story to go with it what or who is Mifaley Tovala I tried to translate it but it still no good or maybe Im not just doing it right PaulMifalei Tovala Ltd. is an Israeli trucking company. The company is based in Omer, Israel. Mifalei Tovala Ltd. operates as a subsidiary of Israel Chemicals Ltd.Were these MACKS built at the Efraim Ilin factory? I knew he had started build Kaisers in the early 1950's and MACKs in 1956 and later Studebaker Larks in 1959. Was the DM pictured built at Illin or Ashdod? Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39849-the-8th-dm800-in-the-world/#findComment-288263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Thanks fella's Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39849-the-8th-dm800-in-the-world/#findComment-288264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 wow way cool thanks bob... Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39849-the-8th-dm800-in-the-world/#findComment-288333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Guy Edelist Posted April 30, 2015 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2015 Hi All,Mifaley Tovala was located in Beer Sheba, names means "transportation industries" now they operate DAF with Paccar engines. GCVW is roughly the same the DM had- about 100 tons. Frame number of this DM is 1008 ,i don't have the full VINThis is a DM863SX, so thanks BMT for your correctionThis DM is imported, later models were assembled in Ashdod, i think from 1973. this was not Efrain ILIN factory but belong to his competitor SHUBINSKY than in 1973 sold to ELKON family, distributor of Mack since the '50. Mifaley Tovala had 64 (!) units of DM863SX, about 2 of them had engine replaced to CAT1693, stronger then the NTC335 and had breaksaver- internal retarder. However the CAT was set to 320 HP and 375HP output. 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39849-the-8th-dm800-in-the-world/#findComment-288339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Thanks!! Paul Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39849-the-8th-dm800-in-the-world/#findComment-288341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Thanks Guy for getting back to us.The full VIN would be DM863SX1008. The "63" indicates the use of a Cummins 335 HP for power.Would be nice if it was still around! 1 Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39849-the-8th-dm800-in-the-world/#findComment-288342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Edelist Posted April 30, 2015 Author Share Posted April 30, 2015 EFRAIM ILIN Factory in Nesher, Haifa had assembled 10 pieces of B31P in 1955 ~ those trucks had German Henschell 6 cyl Engine.Engine was probably part of the German-Israel post Holocaust settlements 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39849-the-8th-dm800-in-the-world/#findComment-288348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Dash Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Excellent info! Quote Jim Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39849-the-8th-dm800-in-the-world/#findComment-288360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Dash Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Frame number of this DM is 1008 ,i don't have the full VINThis is a DM863SX, so thanks BMT for your correction The full VIN would be DM863SX1008. The "63" indicates the use of a Cummins 335 HP for power.Life was so much simpler then. 1 Quote Jim Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39849-the-8th-dm800-in-the-world/#findComment-288361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Guy Edelist Posted May 1, 2015 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2015 Dear friends, have a look at the pics (imaged from internet) Last week in Israel, history is now on the roads.IDF (Israel Army) still run the beasts. DM865SX, 1975-1977 models.V8 ENDT865, 325 HP5/2 Gearbox.Excellent work horse. 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39849-the-8th-dm800-in-the-world/#findComment-288427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Good old Israel I have been doing some interweb study sounds like a fascinating place a place I feel Im gunna have to have a visit before I drop off the perch Israeli Army knows when it's onto a good thing thanks for sharingPaul Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39849-the-8th-dm800-in-the-world/#findComment-288429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdogtrucker Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 I saw on Facebook pics of fleets of V8 powered DM800's over there! Where do they get engine parts to keep them going? 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39849-the-8th-dm800-in-the-world/#findComment-288434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Edelist Posted May 1, 2015 Author Share Posted May 1, 2015 Paul you most welcome to visit, all of you welcomes. Israel is great place, history, holly places, nice looking girls, great atmosphere.The DM865SX was so successful that when retired lots of them sold as truck trailer to Iraq and Georgia (the one near russia not in US) while other converted to tippers and went to work in Africa. (from the internet)The only draw back was sometimes unaware drivers that over run the V8 engine. i.e. push to high RPM with no reason thus made damage, but you cannot find any other truck / vehicle/ airplane that serves so many years and cost so little to run. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39849-the-8th-dm800-in-the-world/#findComment-288450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 these threads just keep on getting better love the photo'sGuy it is now on my short list of places to see I wanna go to NZ say gudday Tim and clan then I would like to get over your way and have a look Israel is a place I dont understand but have always wondered about and thanks to the inter net it keeps looking more amazing all the time a bit like NZ to me the more I see the more I want to see not all parts of the world are like that for me And yes I did noticed the girls are pretty good looking as well and they have Mack trucks so it's gotta be a pretty good spot Paul Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39849-the-8th-dm800-in-the-world/#findComment-288503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Maikshilo Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 these threads just keep on getting better love the photo'sGuy it is now on my short list of places to see I wanna go to NZ say gudday Tim and clan then I would like to get over your way and have a look Israel is a place I dont understand but have always wondered about and thanks to the inter net it keeps looking more amazing all the time a bit like NZ to me the more I see the more I want to see not all parts of the world are like that for me And yes I did noticed the girls are pretty good looking as well and they have Mack trucks so it's gotta be a pretty good spot PaulMack trucks and good looking women! Who could ask for anything more! The Israel Army is one tough bunch and Mack trucks fit right in. Look forward to showing you around the south island Paul and checking out some cool rides! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39849-the-8th-dm800-in-the-world/#findComment-288508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prowrench Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 So my serial number is 1001 does that mean mine is the first DM800 or the firs?t 809sx Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39849-the-8th-dm800-in-the-world/#findComment-443362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 First 809 Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39849-the-8th-dm800-in-the-world/#findComment-443363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prowrench Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Must be worth a few bucks Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39849-the-8th-dm800-in-the-world/#findComment-443364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladislav Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 On 2/21/2020 at 3:04 AM, Prowrench said: Must be worth a few bucks Just don't cut it off the frame rail and put up for sale on flea-bay Quote Никогда не бывает слишком много грузовиков! leversole 11.2012 Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39849-the-8th-dm800-in-the-world/#findComment-443810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prowrench Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 9 hours ago, Vladislav said: Just don't cut it off the frame rail and put up for sale on flea-bay nope! it's a project someone else started the cab and sheet metal have been removed stripped and primed. I will restore it to original condition . I might sell it then ...maybe 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39849-the-8th-dm800-in-the-world/#findComment-443849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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