BAD DOG Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 I went to two different Service Ontario offices and got the run around on plating my truck for shows. How are the guys pulling fifth wheel campers and toy haulers behind big trucks plating their trucks. Both places told me I need to get a CVOR for them to give me a plate. Can you still get a temporary trip permit for 10 days? I don't want to spend huge money to plate the thing for 2 weekends out of the summer. I may end up just using a friends Dealer/Service plate if worse comes to worse. Even thought about just pulling the plates off my pickup for the day. I have insurance on the truck. How much shit will I get in for switching plates I don't have to do any big highway driving to get to either show or go anywhere near a scale. Any of you guys from Ontario have any advice on how to do this as legal like as possible. Lol! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39884-licensing-a-show-truck-in-ontario/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Mack Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 bad dogI can only give you the BC twist on things.... maybe there are parallels, but Canada is as uneven as the us states when it comes to fitting between the cracks..no need for a CVOR for me... but what does your vehicle registration say? Ontario, like Alberta, may not have moved towards the info below... not saying BC is advanced, but I think they understand.BC accepts the concept of private tractor units that are now exempt from commercial testing...http://www.th.gov.bc.ca/cvse/ctpm/com_circulars/2011/110405_comp_cc_05-11_amendment.pdfICBC, the government overlord for licencing and insurance, has a rate class for this purpose and the tag and insurance is based as a private truck at whatever gvw you ask for, the minimum is 1.5 x truck scale weight...next angle... collector plate... (antique also available but restrictive)http://www.icbc.com/vehicle-registration/collector-mods/Pages/Collector-vehicles.aspxtrip or multiple days permits are available and based on how the truck is registered and rate class... I think mine is $35 for one day incl basic 3rd party insurance.driver licencing for a 'non commercial' vehicle....regular class 5 car licence will do but must have 'endorsement 15' if airbrakes involvedtrailer... depends on type and brakeshttp://www.icbc.com/driver-licensing/types-licences/Pages/Towing-a-recreational-trailer.aspxbut a class 1 (semi) will get you covered for everything...I think icbc now understand the RV guys using former commercial trucks to pull the big 5th wheels and CVSE at the scales understand, but I am going for a collector plate just to eliminate all the explaining to cops.... no logs, no pre-trip, no inspection decal (mine says expired in 2004!!) can get the rcmp twitchy, especially the freshly minted ones..!!!was this of any help?... can't answer for your province..BC Mack Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39884-licensing-a-show-truck-in-ontario/#findComment-288597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
85snowdog Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 BAD DOG , licence fees have got stupid over the last 2 years. The government say they are helping us. But they seem to be shoving it up the ass of anyone with a truck.I have never had to show my CVOR to get plates or renewals. Do you have a plate now, and need the renewal sticker? Or need the plate too?I licensed my highway tractor for 8000 KG last year because I wasn't moving anything. I think it was between 2-3 hundred dollars for 3 months.My corn binder has a historic plate on it. But vehicle has to be 30 years old. No safety sticker required. That doesn't help you till 2019.You don't have a 1985 or older V.I.N plate for the door ? lolIt might be worth the drive to my part of the world. I am thinking the licence office is going by the letter of the law. I know there is a licence office south of me that won't renew my plates if they are already expired. They want you to start from scratch. That doesn't work with me. I don't keep valid plates on the snowplow in the summer ,or valid plates on the dump truck in the winter.Hope it helps a little. Feel free to message me if you want.Keith Quote Keith Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39884-licensing-a-show-truck-in-ontario/#findComment-288623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_martell Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 i think i know some people who can help. PM me and ill give you details Quote Lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.... Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39884-licensing-a-show-truck-in-ontario/#findComment-288625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAD DOG Posted May 3, 2015 Author Share Posted May 3, 2015 Actually the crazy part is when I go to the Mack dealer for parts and they run the VIN# the build date on the truck is 1985 and it's a Glider and wasn't registered till 1989 so that part sucks. If there was only a way to get the owner ship date changed to the build date. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39884-licensing-a-show-truck-in-ontario/#findComment-288628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
85snowdog Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 You might be in luck!One of the last times I was at the licence office, the guy ahead of me somehow got his VIN messed up when he did his emission test - there is a form that has to be filled out by an authorized person ( dealer, appraiser) and the ownership can be changed - with you it is legit - you have a show truck you want correct in all ways - even the build date , Quote Keith Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39884-licensing-a-show-truck-in-ontario/#findComment-288635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbigrig Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 If it's registered over 4600kg and you hook anything to it you should have an annual sticker on it. It can get real stupid between what a licensing office may tell you and an MTO enforcement officer will tell you on the side of the road. Think of it like a pickup pulling an RV trailer. What would you need for that is the best answer. Historical plates have some restrictions when it comes to hooking up to trailers I've been told. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39884-licensing-a-show-truck-in-ontario/#findComment-290469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbigrig Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 If it's registered over 4600kg and you hook anything to it you should have an annual sticker on it. It can get real stupid between what a licensing office may tell you and an MTO enforcement officer will tell you on the side of the road. Think of it like a pickup pulling an RV trailer. What would you need for that is the best answer. Historical plates have some restrictions when it comes to hooking up to trailers I've been told. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39884-licensing-a-show-truck-in-ontario/#findComment-290470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbigrig Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 If it's registered over 4600kg and you hook anything to it you should have an annual sticker on it. It can get real stupid between what a licensing office may tell you and an MTO enforcement officer will tell you on the side of the road. Think of it like a pickup pulling an RV trailer. What would you need for that is the best answer. Historical plates have some restrictions when it comes to hooking up to trailers I've been told. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39884-licensing-a-show-truck-in-ontario/#findComment-290471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbigrig Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 If it's registered over 4600kg and you hook anything to it you should have an annual sticker on it. It can get real stupid between what a licensing office may tell you and an MTO enforcement officer will tell you on the side of the road. Think of it like a pickup pulling an RV trailer. What would you need for that is the best answer. Historical plates have some restrictions when it comes to hooking up to trailers I've been told. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39884-licensing-a-show-truck-in-ontario/#findComment-290472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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