mackr400 Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Hi I was wondering if you can haul a trailer in pa with antique tags and can you take old tractors and equipment on that trailer. thanks for any help I have been getting a ton of different answers. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/40505-pa-antique-tag-question/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
220cummins Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 This is a gray area and members at BMT have discussed this in length in the past. If you search for old posts about the topic you will most likely come across them. The gray area is that the language says "can not carry for commercial use" unless it's been changed in the last couple years. I've always treated the antique truck hobby as if were a commercial truck. Look legal and act legal. Keep the truck and trailer maintained and secured as if it were a commerical truck. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/40505-pa-antique-tag-question/#findComment-293602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 You are good in PA as long as you are carrying your own cargo, and not generating revenue in any way. If you race or pull for prize money, that can be considered revenue. Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/40505-pa-antique-tag-question/#findComment-293604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brocky Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 The SCDPS Diesel Cop, Sgt Micheal Still, who attended our chapter meeting last spring defined the word commercial as "The truck OR driver recieving any form of compensation for moving goods" . He also stated that you did not need a CDL to operate a large vehicle as long as there is NO compensation to the truck or driver.. When we asked he said ribbons and trophys do NOT count as compensation, BUT breakfast/dinner or a case of beer DOES!!! Since tractors and farm equipment do not have titles the is no problem hauling your friends stuff, If it is another truck we sort of decided amongst ourselves that a phony bill of sale would solve the explanitions of a routine stop. A fatal accident and you are up sh**ts creek anyhow. Quote Brocky Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/40505-pa-antique-tag-question/#findComment-293605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murf915 Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 I was told with my 77 Mack when i put the classic tag on it last year that i can not pull a trailer with it unless the trailer is part of the classic combination to go along with the tractor, which I am sure you could pull a normal trailer no problems with them not knowing, but if somebody ran into the back of you or you had a fender bender i guess it could get tricky with insurance at that point. That's why i just bobtail my old girl to the shows now Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/40505-pa-antique-tag-question/#findComment-293606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DodgeMan Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Good in most states as long as your hauling your own stuff and have not for hire on the truck. A added plus is running antique plates on the truck.... Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/40505-pa-antique-tag-question/#findComment-293642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ditchkus Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 In Penna. I was told you cannot put Antique Plates on a trailer no matter the year. I do pull a trailer with my Antique plated truck with antique trucks on it. So far no problems. I crossed a scale in Virginia and was told to pull around back when I told Weighmaster I had Antique Plates he said go on my way. Joe D. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/40505-pa-antique-tag-question/#findComment-293658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1958 F.W.D. Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Hi I was wondering if you can haul a trailer in pa with antique tags and can you take old tractors and equipment on that trailer. thanks for any help I have been getting a ton of different answers.One Pennsylvanian to another:The truck and trailer MUST be licensed, registered and insured** as antiques, and they may NOT be used in commerce/for profit in any way. If properly licensed, registered and insured** as antiques, they are exempt from commercial vehicle regulations including the driver needing to possess a CDL. Many of the DOT Men, bears, local yokels and even private Tag Bureaus are not familiar with the legislation and Pa MV Codes regarding these regulations. I would first check with PENNDOT to see about tagging the trailer. If they are confused or unfamiliar, I would then check with a REPUTABLE private tag bureau. Then if all else fails, you may have to get your State Representative involved as I had to when I was trying to tag my firetruck as an antique truck (long fucking story but they wanted to first tag it as an emergency vehicle because it was a firetruck, could not understand the fact that it was a privately owned vehicle and no longer a municipal firetruck- then when they got that through their thick skulls, I was told it had to have a "Truck" plates and registration because it's GVWR was in excess of 26,001 lbs- true, if it were being used in commerce, which of course it is not. Additionally when it comes to DOT Checkpoints, scales and even being pulled over for a traffic violation, not having inspection stickers or god forbid being involved in an accident, many cops don't know or understand the Pa MVC regarding antiques. I carry copies of the pertinent sections in my glove box, attached to my registration, insurance certificate and a recent CAT Scale certificate.** Your insurance may have specific requirements or limitations, you must read and understand your individual policy. Quote TWO STROKES ARE FOR GARDEN TOOLS Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/40505-pa-antique-tag-question/#findComment-293663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer52 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 OH regs state the vehicle cannot be used for general transportation. Use only to attend shows, parades, and similar functions. Does PA have this stipulation? Quote Ken PRR Country and Charter member of the "Mack Pack" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/40505-pa-antique-tag-question/#findComment-293695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1958 F.W.D. Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 OH regs state the vehicle cannot be used for general transportation. Use only to attend shows, parades, and similar functions. Does PA have this stipulation?Ken, the verbiage that Pa uses is something along the lines of "The vehicle may not be used for commerce in any way, shape or form." Quote TWO STROKES ARE FOR GARDEN TOOLS Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/40505-pa-antique-tag-question/#findComment-293699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
leversole Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/40505-pa-antique-tag-question/#findComment-293790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackr400 Posted June 18, 2015 Author Share Posted June 18, 2015 Thanks for all the help guys just trying to figure out which way I want to put it on the road that 1900 dollar a year regular registration is a killer.Thanks Phil Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/40505-pa-antique-tag-question/#findComment-293857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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