The 15 percent

[david wild]

The 15 percent of the population has now decided that Stone Mountain GA. stone carvings are/is racist and want it demolished, in it's place they plan to have a carving of MLK. giving his I have a dream speech.

I think maybe I would like to find a country to live in that fits my believes ???

Maybe there should be a open season on the 15 percent. (just kidding, don't want have the Obama police on my doorstep). How about needing a tax return receipt to vote, no pay, no vote that seems fair to me.

[Bobby j]

I couldn't agree more...........the other 85 percent should damn well start sticking together my two cents ........Bobby j.

[41chevy]

The politically correct crowd. want to keep riding this anti-racism gravy train all the way to ZERO free speech is tolerated.

The Governor of New York has 95% legislative support to ban the sale, trade or display of Swastikas, iron Crosses, Maltese Crosses, Skull and Crossed Bones, the SS symbols (my '63 Impala will be a no no ?), Soviet Hammer and Sickle, Red Star, USSR and CCCP markings, All are offensive to him? Now what to the 2 aircraft museums do with the WWI, WWI and Cold War Aircraft? There is an Armor Museum with WWII and late Soviet Armor what happens there?

If they would teach non politically correct, non biased, factual history in schools, these things would not be issues, would we?.

by the way, The Confederate flag is not racist and it truly was only ever used as a symbol for the South, as they exercised a constitutionally protected right to secede.

Oh the cruel irony of political correctness.

[Outbehindthebarn]

A little known fact.... MLK was an incorrigible skirt chaser. Like so many 'great' leaders on the Left, a sharp divide between personal character and public persona.

[theakerstwo]

But you will have to say MLK did not provoke violence like the hate monglers out there today.

[Outbehindthebarn]

But you will have to say MLK did not provoke violence like the hate monglers out there today.

Black culture in general has become much more violent in the past 20 years than it was in the 1960's. Current leadership most certainly bears some repsonsibility, agreed.

[RowdyRebel]

Article 1. - The Legislative Branch

Section 9 - Limits on Congress, Bill of Rights

1. The importation of negroes of the African race from any foreign country other than the slaveholding States or Territories of the United States of America, is hereby forbidden; and Congress is required to pass such laws as shall effectually prevent the same.

2. Congress shall also have power to prohibit the introduction of slaves from any State not a member of, or Territory not belonging to, this Confederacy.

That right there is straight out of the Constitution of the Confederate States of America...outright banned the importation of slaves from foreign lands, and strongly urged against importing them from the north, too. In other words, NOT 1 slave was EVER brought here under the Confederate flag, and the Confederacy was taking steps to curb the slave trade BEFORE the war began...so people who think the war was fought over slavery are full of crap and simply don't know history. Besides, if Lincoln wanted to free the slaves, his "emancipation proclamation" would have freed the slaves under his jurisdiction...NOT just the ones in territory loyal to the Confederacy (while "union" slaves remained in slavery).

[41chevy]

So to replace the Confederate images for an MLK image will be an interesting. The Georgia park is leased to Herschend Family Entertainment, who own operates 26 other properties, ranging from Dollywood in Pigeon Forge, Tenn., to Missouri’s Silver Dollar City and Showboat Branson Belle. They have 35 years left on the Stone Mountain Lease and get 4 million paying visitors there a year to the monument alone. That alone adds $16 million to the local economy and employees 720 full time people there and 350 seasonals there and at the Stone Mountain Amusement Park (adds another 1.5 million visitors a year and 6 to 7 million additional money to the local economy.

Unless there is Big money, Federal intervention via Eminent Domain I don't see it happening. Not to detract from the non violent and honorable way MLK got his points out, what benefit does this have for the people of Georgia beyond pushing an agenda on them?

[mrsmackpaul]

All very interesting I had never heard of these rock carvings before still learning something new every day

Paul

[mowerman]

oh theres a surprize,,,,and yes david wild,,,let me know,,,if you find a land that worries about us white people we all might wanna move there.they have already proved themselves here,,,,by removing god from everything,,,and most nativity scenes..lol.bob

[Maddog13407]

heard on the news yesterday that they are takin the Dukes of Hazzard reruns off the air permanently now because the flag is racist.... what is the world coming to...

[mowerman]

the old lady was just telling me that,yesterday,,,,wow what about the millians of fans,,,that like the show,,,,,oh thats right,,,,our oppinion doesnt matter now...like wow man ..bob

[Vladislav]

BS and unbeliveable stupidity again.

Prohibitation and limitation is the easiest way.

Much more difficult is to study people what the things were and what was good and bad.

And than you wouldn't became racist of fashist just observing Swastika or Confederation flag.

Closing such symvols from a show they take facts off the history. They deform the history that way.

And the history will not be usable to teach lessons for the future.

[Bobby j]

heard on the news yesterday that they are takin the Dukes of Hazzard reruns off the air permanently now because the flag is racist.... what is the world coming to...

n. Ya"ll should really love this just heard TV land is gonna start airing a show sometime this month about a GAY catholic priest .........talk about what's wrong is now right and what's right is now wrong.......Bobby j.

[41chevy]

The 15 percent of the population has now decided that Stone Mountain GA. stone carvings are/is racist and want it demolished, in it's place they plan to have a carving of MLK. giving his I have a dream speech.

I think maybe I would like to find a country to live in that fits my believes ???

Maybe there should be a open season on the 15 percent. (just kidding, don't want have the Obama police on my doorstep). How about needing a tax return receipt to vote, no pay, no vote that seems fair to me.

Maybe those that think it is racist show read this. A page from the 1936 book on the History of the Military of the Confederate States of America. by Major General William Durward Conor , Superintendent U.S. Military College at West Point. Veteran of the Spanish-American War, WWI and WWII Awarded two Silver Stars and the DSC. It was during WWII, required reading by the Cadets.

"A few other lesser known Confederate militia units of free men of color were raised throughout Louisiana at the beginning of the war. These units included: the Baton Rouge Guards under Capt. Henry Favrot, portions of the Pointe Coupee Light Infantry under Capt. Ferdinand Claiborne, and the Augustin Guards and Monet's Guards of Natchitochesunder Dr. Jean Burdin. The only official duties ever given to the Natchitoches units were funeral honor guard details.

After an August 1861 battle near Hampton, Virginia, Union army Colonel John W. Phelps, of the 1st Vermont Infantryreported on the Confederate forces he faced there. Colonel Phelps' report reflects his scouts as reporting that among the Confederate artillery there was the Richmond Howitzer Battery that was manned by negroes.

One account of an unidentified African American fighting for the Confederacy, from two Southern 1862 newspapers, tells of "a huge negro" fighting under the command of Confederate Major General John C. Breckinridge against the 14th Maine Infantry Regiment in a battle near Baton Rouge, Louisiana, on August 5, 1862. The man was described as being "armed and equipped with knapsack, musket, and uniform", and leading the attack.

Following the July 1862 Surrender of Murfreesborough, Tennessee, Lieutenant Colonel John G. Parkhurst of the 9th Michigan Infantry reported on African Americans serving with the Confederate First Regiment Texas Rangers and the First Georgia Rangers. His report states "There were also quite a number of negroes attached to the Texas and Georgia troops, who were armed and equipped, and took part in the several engagements with my forces during the day."

Several African Americans are known to have participated in some capacity on the Southern side in the Battle of Gettysburg. After the battle in July 1863, "reported among the rebel prisoners were seven blacks in Confederate uniforms fully armed as soldiers."

Dr. Lewis Steiner, Chief Inspector of the United States Sanitary Commission while observing Gen. "Stonewall" Jackson's occupation of Frederick, Maryland, in 1862: "Over 8,000 Negroes must be included in this number [Confederate troops]. These were clad in all kinds of uniforms, not only in cast-off or captured United States uniforms, but in coats with Southern buttons, State buttons, etc. These were shabby, but not shabbier or seedier than those worn by white men in the rebel ranks. Most of the Negroes had arms, rifles, muskets, sabers, bowie-knives, dirks, etc.....and were manifestly an integral portion of the Southern Confederate Army."

Union Brigadier-General D. Stuart observed that "...the enemy, and especially their armed negroes, did dare to rise and fire, and did serious execution upon our men. The casualties in the brigade were 11 killed, 40 wounded, and 4 missing...."

The number of African-Americans, both slave and free, that served in the Confederate Army in a direct combat capacity was minor, and was never official policy. After the war, the State of Tennessee granted Confederate Pensions to nearly 3,000 African Americans for their service to the Confederacy. While an accurate estimate of the number of African Americans who served in the Confederate armed forces may never be known, the United States Census of 1890 lists 15,273 African Americans who were Confederate veterans.:"

[75T]

Maybe those that think it is racist show read this. A page from the 1936 book on the History of the Military of the Confederate States of America. by Major General William Durward Conor , Superintendent U.S. Military College at West Point. Veteran of the Spanish-American War, WWI and WWII Awarded two Silver Stars and the DSC. It was during WWII, required reading by the Cadets.

"A few other lesser known Confederate militia units of free men of color were raised throughout Louisiana at the beginning of the war. These units included: the Baton Rouge Guards under Capt. Henry Favrot, portions of the Pointe Coupee Light Infantry under Capt. Ferdinand Claiborne, and the Augustin Guards and Monet's Guards of Natchitochesunder Dr. Jean Burdin. The only official duties ever given to the Natchitoches units were funeral honor guard details.

After an August 1861 battle near Hampton, Virginia, Union army Colonel John W. Phelps, of the 1st Vermont Infantryreported on the Confederate forces he faced there. Colonel Phelps' report reflects his scouts as reporting that among the Confederate artillery there was the Richmond Howitzer Battery that was manned by negroes.

One account of an unidentified African American fighting for the Confederacy, from two Southern 1862 newspapers, tells of "a huge negro" fighting under the command of Confederate Major General John C. Breckinridge against the 14th Maine Infantry Regiment in a battle near Baton Rouge, Louisiana, on August 5, 1862. The man was described as being "armed and equipped with knapsack, musket, and uniform", and leading the attack.

Following the July 1862 Surrender of Murfreesborough, Tennessee, Lieutenant Colonel John G. Parkhurst of the 9th Michigan Infantry reported on African Americans serving with the Confederate First Regiment Texas Rangers and the First Georgia Rangers. His report states "There were also quite a number of negroes attached to the Texas and Georgia troops, who were armed and equipped, and took part in the several engagements with my forces during the day."

Several African Americans are known to have participated in some capacity on the Southern side in the Battle of Gettysburg. After the battle in July 1863, "reported among the rebel prisoners were seven blacks in Confederate uniforms fully armed as soldiers."

Dr. Lewis Steiner, Chief Inspector of the United States Sanitary Commission while observing Gen. "Stonewall" Jackson's occupation of Frederick, Maryland, in 1862: "Over 8,000 Negroes must be included in this number [Confederate troops]. These were clad in all kinds of uniforms, not only in cast-off or captured United States uniforms, but in coats with Southern buttons, State buttons, etc. These were shabby, but not shabbier or seedier than those worn by white men in the rebel ranks. Most of the Negroes had arms, rifles, muskets, sabers, bowie-knives, dirks, etc.....and were manifestly an integral portion of the Southern Confederate Army."

Union Brigadier-General D. Stuart observed that "...the enemy, and especially their armed negroes, did dare to rise and fire, and did serious execution upon our men. The casualties in the brigade were 11 killed, 40 wounded, and 4 missing...."

The number of African-Americans, both slave and free, that served in the Confederate Army in a direct combat capacity was minor, and was never official policy. After the war, the State of Tennessee granted Confederate Pensions to nearly 3,000 African Americans for their service to the Confederacy. While an accurate estimate of the number of African Americans who served in the Confederate armed forces may never be known, the United States Census of 1890 lists 15,273 African Americans who were Confederate veterans.:"