Do purebread Macks have a gold Bulldog?

[antiquelathe]

I am looking to buy a Model R dump truck. I want one that is all Mack. Someone told me, that an all Mack truck should have a gold Bulldog.

I do not remember ever seeing a Model R with a gold Bulldog. I thought the engine,transmission rear-end and springs made it a purebread.

Please correct me. Just want to be informed. Than you.

[mrsmackpaul]

As far as I know at least in Australia the gold dog came out with Maxidyne powered trucks and was to represent the new Maxidyne motor

Plenty of people say it is only a pure Mack drive line that has the gold dog but Mack Australia's official word is it was when the Maxidynes came out in the 60's

How ever I think today any new Mack that has the all Mack drive line has a gold dog

but from the late 60's till the end of the production run of the Maxidyne thats what the gold dog was for

Paul

[RedBullDog]

In the more modern trucks the gold dog symbolizes all mack driveline. Depending on the age of the R you are looking at, that may not be the case. My truck is "All Mack" but has the chrome pooch cause it was born with an eaton trans, but had an addadiktome.

[slspacek]

I too was told that on the older Macks, the gold bulldog symbolized the maxidyne engine Vs the thermodyne. Some on else maybe able to verify, the maxidyne engine was overhead cam and the thermodyne was a push rod engine? ? ?

[1958 F.W.D.]

I asked Harvey Eckert this time-honored question. It's not a simple answer. It is, however a myth that gold dogs symbolize a 100% purebred driveline. I do remember something about Maxidyne versus Thermodyne versus another MFR's engine, as well as Maxitorque versus other transmissions. I will see if I can find the email with the answer.

[j hancock]

Here is the previous discussion with Harvey's response.

http://www.bigmacktrucks.com/index.php?/topic/38273-gold-dog/

[keg1]

I had 3 R models that were all Mack with chrome dogs

[39 Baby Mack]

I too was told that on the older Macks, the gold bulldog symbolized the maxidyne engine Vs the thermodyne. Some on else maybe able to verify, the maxidyne engine was overhead cam and the thermodyne was a push rod engine? ? ?

Both engines are overhead valve engines (push rod), neither are overhead cam engines

Ron

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[Hal Yoder]

i drove an R795 and an F795. The model number indicates they both had ENDT865 325 V8 Maxidynes and both had gold dogs. The V8 logos on the trucks were also gold. They were pedigreed as well, with the 5 speed and Mack bogeys.

[antiquelathe]

J Hancock, Thank you! To everyone else, Thank you for your time and comments.

[diggerpro]

I also have had many R, U and DM Macks that had chrome bulldogs and all Mack components all of these were Thermodines or 237 maxidines , I was told that the gold dog was used on trucks with all Mack components and the 300 or 325 engines. I have one R with a 300 and a gold dog and also have owned 4 others with 300's and all had the gold dogs-

[bts-4120]

from what I have seen the gold dogs disapered in the late 70's and have re appeared in about 2004 with all mack drive line's there will always be cases where the owner put one on his self

[ranchhopper]

My RS700L has gold dogs on the hood and mirrors maybe even on the doors before they were replaced all mack drive line with the 237 and five speed.

[mrsmackpaul]

Ok the question at the start was do pure bred Macks have gold dog's the short answer is yes but also the have silver bulldogs and I only just learnt black bulldogs question for all the Mack experts

what Mack has a Mack Bulldog ?????

Paul

[Tuffguy707]

My 01 Ch613 had the gold dog and it was all Mack. My 01 Rd was not all Mack and it had the Chrome dog. My dads 02 Rd was all Mack and it had the Gold dog.

[Superdog]

I think I've explained this 1000 times,in 1966 Mack introduced the Maxidyne engine,these engines were painted gold and all MAXIDYNE ENGINE EQUIPPED Macks had gold Bulldogs.Didn't matter what transmission,athough 95% of all Maxidynes had Mack transmissions,and it didn't matter what rear ends were. During the 1980 model year,Mack had to quit using the gold engine paint,but the gold Bulldog remained until 1981. By this time the 1st generation of Econodyne engines were being produced and the gold Bulldog went away until the early '90's they were brought back on the hood of the Elite package CH and CL trucks. Then in 95 or 96 they started putting them on the all Mack component trucks and this remains to this day.

[Dirtymilkman]

My 1990 ch elite has gold bulldogs

[bbigrig]

We use to order Midliners with Gold dogs for goodness sakes.

Superdog has it right!

Keep in mind everyone,for the last 35 years you could order a Gold dog off of the assembly line or have it installed on delivery just because you wanted a Gold dog. It's always been an option.

[1965]

I know of a 1988 Rmodel bought new from local company & sold to a friend that I have driven; it had econodyne on the hood & gold dog on the hood & mirrors; it also an all Mack component; I can't imagine this company special ordering gold hood ornament; although it had to have been order special; it had 5 speed trans with 555 gears; reverse was way to fast hard to back up; low gear was to high too; but when you got started it would roll; it would out run & pull his 91 CH with 9 speed; both had 300 engine but R was all mechanical & CH had electronics

[bbigrig]

On the flip side, a large Ontario customer in the 80's use to pull the gold Bulldogs off on delivery because they kept getting stolen and had chrome ones installed.

[Sam0243]

My dad had an EQ and I thought it had a brass bulldog on the hood of it. 

[Swishy]

Google tells me:

What does a gold Mack Bulldog mean?

Trademark. The company's trademark is the bulldog, which can be found on the front of almost all Mack trucks. A gold-plated bulldog indicates the truck was made with a Mack produced drive train, engine, transmission and drive axles. A chromebulldog indicates other manufacturers' components were used.

[mrsmackpaul]

So Swish man, now that Macks arent making their own manual transmission anymore does that mean only Macks with M drive will hav3 a gold doggy from now on ?

 

Paul