Mack 3P Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 Morning CallTook a while to happen.Anyone need an engineer? I'll be looking for a new job Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/4113-mack-moving-headquarters-other-facilities-to-north-carolina/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 Just got this myself! It's a sad, sad day for Mack...MackRelease.doc Quote Barry - Watt's Truck Center Parts Manager and BMT Webmaster...1-888-304-MACK Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/4113-mack-moving-headquarters-other-facilities-to-north-carolina/#findComment-21297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
granitefan713 Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 Very sad to hear.I guess that puts an end to my annual trips to the World Headquarters......Best of luck to all those affected by this. Quote http://www.flickr.com/photos/granitefan713/-Dave Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/4113-mack-moving-headquarters-other-facilities-to-north-carolina/#findComment-21299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 You can see the Volvo building from I-40. Be interesting to see if they even put up a Mack sign. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/4113-mack-moving-headquarters-other-facilities-to-north-carolina/#findComment-21313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lmackattack Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 3P,Sorry,I Dont have a job for you but if there comes a time when your carear ends please do tell us all the behind the curtain BS that has been goin on lately.ThanksTrent Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/4113-mack-moving-headquarters-other-facilities-to-north-carolina/#findComment-21324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackdaddy1911a1 Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 Morning CallTook a while to happen.Anyone need an engineer? I'll be looking for a new job I'M VEY SORRY TO HEAR THAT 3P.........NOW I REALY HATE THOSE EUROTRASHLANDERS. THEY'RE GONNA #*!? UP THE BEST TRUCK MAKER ON THE PLANET..and for what? GOD BLESS EVERY TRUE MACK EMPLOYEE AND MAY HE DAMN volvo. Quote THE GREATEST NAME IN TRUCKS MACK TRUCKS Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/4113-mack-moving-headquarters-other-facilities-to-north-carolina/#findComment-21325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mack 3P Posted August 15, 2008 Author Share Posted August 15, 2008 More in the local Allentown news.Officials wanted shot to keep iconMove comes as shock to many Mack workersLoss leaves Valley feeling 'hit by a Mack truck'WFMZ TV Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/4113-mack-moving-headquarters-other-facilities-to-north-carolina/#findComment-21329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
other dog Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 I thought they said on the local tv station this morning that they weren't going to make any Macks in Dublin anymore,and they were going to move it back to Pa Quote Producer of poorly photo-chopped pictures since 1999. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/4113-mack-moving-headquarters-other-facilities-to-north-carolina/#findComment-21333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldoggin' Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 That's what I heard too Other Dog! Quote KEEP THE BLACK SMOKE ROLLIN Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/4113-mack-moving-headquarters-other-facilities-to-north-carolina/#findComment-21338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AutomaticMack Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 Hey 3P, I work at BP refinery they are looking for engineers and other positions, might be something to look into. However you would need to relocate. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/4113-mack-moving-headquarters-other-facilities-to-north-carolina/#findComment-21339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mack 3P Posted August 16, 2008 Author Share Posted August 16, 2008 I'll try to sumarize what I know compared to what the papers are saying. I'll share more as I learn more.The CHU, CXU will move to Macungie from the Volvo New River Valley plant. They expect job losses at NRV. Macungie will add some new jobs. The Mack in NRV has not work so good. Every year someting changes. Last year the line was changed so that Macks and Volvo's ran on the same line.Mack World Headquaters jobs will move to Volvo HQ in Greensboro NC early 2009. They say empolyees will be able to transfer. WHQ employees include Parts, Service, Customer Satisfaction and administrative jobs along with a bunch of other stuff. Customer Engineering which works the special orders is also located in WHQ. They will move to the current Test Center in Allentown. We are told WHQ will be sold once everyone is out. The Test Center will be a "welcome center" for customers to see new trucks.The Test Center jobs which is Mack Product Development (engineering, testing, design) will move to Greensboro after we deliver the new US10 truck (early 2010). We are told we have the option to move to Greensboro. The question I have is to what job will be available? Volvo has engineers that do similar work on the Volvo that can just take it on for Macks. Today an announcemnt was made of who will be in charge of the move out of Allentown. Coincidently it is the same guy who tried to shut down Allentown a few years ago. When he was put in charge the Allentown staff was cut by close to half.Most of the Mack knowledge in Allentown will be lost since most people will not relocate. 10-20% of people transfer when employeers move. Alot of Mack employees are second generation and many have other family members employed by Mack.I've also heard (rumor) Volvo is expanding the Bus plant in Mexico. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/4113-mack-moving-headquarters-other-facilities-to-north-carolina/#findComment-21343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AutomaticMack Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 Glad I got out of trucking when I did, with the high cost of fuel and now the slow decline of Mack. Reminds me of the fall of the Roman Empire.....slowly they fell until the huns at the gate....and then the dark ages. Are we on the edge of the dark ages of the vulva "oops excuse me" volvo dark ages. F@#$ vulva Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/4113-mack-moving-headquarters-other-facilities-to-north-carolina/#findComment-21345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldoggin' Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 Such ashame!!! Quote KEEP THE BLACK SMOKE ROLLIN Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/4113-mack-moving-headquarters-other-facilities-to-north-carolina/#findComment-21347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lmackattack Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 well this is just plane shit.. takeing a local USA place of history and trashing it in the night as to think that no one wuld care. 3P Im sorry to hear of you situation and please do share this with the rest of the diehards at your location that we all here (I think I can speak for most) dont like the out look volvo is giving you and the Mack brand.Best of luck to you.Trent Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/4113-mack-moving-headquarters-other-facilities-to-north-carolina/#findComment-21351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackdaddy1911a1 Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 (edited) well this is just plane shit.. takeing a local USA place of history and trashing it in the night as to think that no one wuld care. 3P Im sorry to hear of you situation and please do share this with the rest of the diehards at your location that we all here (I think I can speak for most) dont like the out look volvo is giving you and the Mack brand.Best of luck to you.TrentAMEN brother you speak the truth and according to the bible the truth shall set you free. f vulvo and the horse that drug it in the door. 3P PLEASE LET OUR MACK guys and galls know that we stand by them . BARRY, 3P would a patition help?????? If so let us know. cause this is bull sh#t. no doubt about it.... Edited August 16, 2008 by mackdaddy1911a1 Quote THE GREATEST NAME IN TRUCKS MACK TRUCKS Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/4113-mack-moving-headquarters-other-facilities-to-north-carolina/#findComment-21352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackdaddy Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 It doesn't make sense that they move the highway line to Macungie. I purchased a new 08 Mack Pinnacle and it is the same frame/crossmembers as a Volvo and I was told that is why the were built on the same line. At Macungie they build the true Mack lineup. In fact I could not even order my new 08 with Mack tranny or rears as I was told that only the Macungie built trucks got that option. Sooooooooooooo does that really mean the end of the highway line of Mack soon? Should a bought a KW!! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/4113-mack-moving-headquarters-other-facilities-to-north-carolina/#findComment-21353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GearheadGrrrl Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 One would think that a company like Volvo that is a guest in this country would no better than to mess with our traditions. With the move of the main office to Volvo North America HQ in North Carolina, it's obvious that future Macks will be just Volvos with a bulldog on the hood... And the bulldog will probably be made in China. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/4113-mack-moving-headquarters-other-facilities-to-north-carolina/#findComment-21368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 It doesn't make sense that they move the highway line to Macungie. I purchased a new 08 Mack Pinnacle and it is the same frame/crossmembers as a Volvo and I was told that is why the were built on the same line. At Macungie they build the true Mack lineup. In fact I could not even order my new 08 with Mack tranny or rears as I was told that only the Macungie built trucks got that option. Sooooooooooooo does that really mean the end of the highway line of Mack soon? Should a bought a KW!!Anyway I made this coment in Barrys good or bad for mack pole last year I must be a fortune teller!I know this is a bit late and an old post but ,I have to say that the Volvo engine does look to be a decent power plant Mack guy!THIS IS THE ONLY UPSIDE TO MY COMENTS.Having said that MackGuy ,I have worked, on , for and around Mack trucks for most of my working life 30 years OR SO ,as well as the volvo stuff fords kw PETES and the rest to some degree!The truck we sell now is a Volvo with a mack cab! DON'T KID US, THE volvo people have KEPT NONE, of the Good mack IDEAS ,NOT ONE! THE dog on the hood and the cab is all thats left.You take the cab off the frame its a volvo frame ,engine and abunch of jobber parts. SORRY its for the most part the truth I was once a proud mack guy now I work on Volvo stuff ,I have less kinder words for it but won't use it here!These Guys could have at least kept some of the simple Ideas and used them`NOT ONE did they keep! SO FAR ONLY THING I SEE that I MILDLY like is the engine IMPRESS me with some good old simple MACK stuff ont the rest of the truck ! Mack diffs mack trans mack built tough frames suspention yada yada!Sorry had to rant!The cab and hood were all thats left in that post!The volvo cab is next the hood to follow!The dog will stay on the hood with a slash thru the grillethen they will shoot the dog!Sven will now be happy the dog is dead!You have now been asimulated By Sven and OlleyThe estamated time of life for the dog on the hood you ask? 2015 a normal dogs life 10-15 years Sven and Olley will have owned the dog for 14.Yes the Mack will soon be just another model of Volvo just like Autocar and rest!3p I hope they keep the mack guys and give some of the volvo dudes the boot but I highly doubt it! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/4113-mack-moving-headquarters-other-facilities-to-north-carolina/#findComment-21369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james j neiweem Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Sorry to hear about the news 3P and all the other personnel in Allentown also. Sounds like the people that transfer will just mix into the volvo corporate soup down in NC. Keep your heads up I was able to find a good job at 57 years old after being let go. It won't be easy but hang in there. Maybee it will be a good thing for Mack separating out of NRV. They may be able to keep the Mack identity a little longer. Maybee they are getting ready to spin Mack off. You never know with these last minute announcements. Again good luck to all involved. It can only get better from here. I'll bet the Mack brothers are spinning at 2100 rpm in their graves. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/4113-mack-moving-headquarters-other-facilities-to-north-carolina/#findComment-21379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HK Trucking Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Maybee they are getting ready to spin Mack off.There's nothing left to spin off.If another company bought the Mack brand now they would have to totally re engineer everything from the ground up to eliminate all the V*lv* parts. . Quote "If You Can't Shift It Smoothly, You Shouldn't Be Driving It" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/4113-mack-moving-headquarters-other-facilities-to-north-carolina/#findComment-21380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GearheadGrrrl Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 If Mack was spun off, Volvo would probably try to get a long term engine supply contract in the deal. That might get them into trouble with the antitrust laws, so they'd have to offer other engine options... I'm sure Cummins would be happy to engineer an installation for every Mack model! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/4113-mack-moving-headquarters-other-facilities-to-north-carolina/#findComment-21412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 If Mack was spun off, Volvo would probably try to get a long term engine supply contract in the deal. That might get them into trouble with the antitrust laws, so they'd have to offer other engine options... I'm sure Cummins would be happy to engineer an installation for every Mack model!There aint nothin left on the thing thats mack now anyway No one would want it!the only thing on the truck now that is truly mack is the cab + Hood!You can still get the diffs and trans but for how long who knows.The hydralic clutch linkage to be added shortly is next!We still got a cable something that works and is adjustable ,We can't have that! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/4113-mack-moving-headquarters-other-facilities-to-north-carolina/#findComment-21413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
B613T owner Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 Yes this is very sad news, guess next move is putting the V%l%- sign on the Macks and remove " READ" Kill the Bulldog.......... Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/4113-mack-moving-headquarters-other-facilities-to-north-carolina/#findComment-21414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 Did the V in the top of the grill come before or after Volvo? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/4113-mack-moving-headquarters-other-facilities-to-north-carolina/#findComment-21424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Hatfield Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 I wonder what will happen to the Mack Musuem and archives? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/4113-mack-moving-headquarters-other-facilities-to-north-carolina/#findComment-21428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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